Let's Hear from the Database Moderators: Another question for the moderators, if I may

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Let's Hear from the Database Moderators

By dave
February 2, 2015

One of the biggest strengths of our plant database is that we have it sectioned off into "custom databases," each dedicated to a specific kind of plant, and that members can be given power to moderate every aspect of those areas. Come read what our moderators think about the database in this interesting multi-person interview!

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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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pirl
Feb 1, 2015 7:34 PM CST
Where do people go wrong when making entries - most common errors?

What could we do to make your task easier when we enter a plant?

Thank you all for the intense work you do to make this site so informative and so helpful to so many.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2015 7:57 PM CST

Plants Admin

I once posted two threads in the Plant Database Forum to point out the most common errors we run into in data proposals and new plant proposals.

The thread "Common errors in data proposals" in Plant Database forum

The thread "Common errors in new plant proposals" in Plant Database forum
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Plant Identifier
pirl
Feb 1, 2015 8:20 PM CST
Regarding your second thread, there have been 108 views but the maladies seem to linger. The first thread has had 382 views and yet the issue of feet and inches continues. Is there a way you can bounce back the proposal until it's presented correctly?

Or, would it be possible for plant entries to automatically bounce it back if something is wrong just as spell-check highlights anything suspected of being an error?

You do have the patience of a saint.
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Forum moderator Plant Database Moderator Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses
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zuzu
Feb 1, 2015 8:35 PM CST

Plants Admin

The issue of feet and inches is one we may never be able to conquer. In fact, some of the database moderators are still using abbreviations (ft. and in.) or single and double quotes in their own sections of the database.

The trouble with bouncing proposals back is that we have to include a message to explain the error. That often leads to an exchange of tree-mails and can take longer than the alternative of simply approving the proposal and then correcting the errors we notice. If a person submits many proposals and makes the same errors consistently, I usually send a tree-mail to explain the correct format.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tomato Heads Houseplants Garden Ideas: Level 1 Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Plant Identifier
pirl
Feb 1, 2015 8:56 PM CST
Perhaps this is a job for Super Dave. He comes up with solutions for problems with such amazing speed that this could be a challenge for him.

Clearly all your tree mails, specifying the errors, are in vain with some people. Habits are hard to break but a big note on the face of the computer saying "Do not use ft. and in." would probably be ignored.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Feb 2, 2015 7:04 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

zuzu said:The issue of feet and inches is one we may never be able to conquer. In fact, some of the database moderators are still using abbreviations (ft. and in.) or single and double quotes in their own sections of the database.


I actually woke up this morning thinking about this. We have areas of the database that are really "ranges" rather than fixed values. Hardiness zones go from one point to another and every zone inside those points apply. Same with height and spread. My thinking is to replace those text fields into ranged slider bars or something like that.
Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
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dave
Feb 4, 2015 7:23 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

Let's move this discussion over here:

The thread "Handling ranges in the database" in Plant Database forum
Name: Kent Pfeiffer
Southeast Nebraska (Zone 5b)
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KentPfeiffer
Feb 4, 2015 6:24 PM CST

Plants Admin

pirl said:Where do people go wrong when making entries - most common errors?

What could we do to make your task easier when we enter a plant?

Thank you all for the intense work you do to make this site so informative and so helpful to so many.


If I could, I would love to make one request when people entering data into plant entries. That is, enter the information you KNOW, but please don't just GUESS. One common example is the Inflorescence Type field. There are 16 choices within that field, each with fairly precise definitions. The odds of guessing the right one are slim. It's far better to leave fields blank when you aren't sure. Empty fields invite someone else to fill the gaps. Incorrect information is more persistent and difficult to root out.

Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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HollyAnnS
Feb 18, 2015 9:24 AM CST
I have been completely out of touch for several days and won't get a chance to completely catch up. I did get to see some of the lovely new data base pics. I would like to add a few to the winter interest Database pics. But I can't seem to find it?
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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dave
Feb 18, 2015 9:34 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

When you add a photo to any plant in the database, you'll see the option. It asks you what kind of image it is and the last option is "Winter Interest"
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
Charter ATP Member Greenhouse Region: Mid-Atlantic I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pennsylvania Tropicals
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HollyAnnS
Feb 18, 2015 9:57 AM CST
Thanks Dave,
Life is Great! Holly
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Name: Dave Whitinger
Jacksonville, Texas (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Master Gardener: Texas Permaculture Raises cows I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Beekeeper Garden Sages Avid Green Pages Reviewer Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier
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dave
Feb 18, 2015 10:29 AM CST

Garden.org Admin

I tip my hat to you.

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