Plant ID forum: Garden Phlox (Phlox paniculata Flame™ Pink Flame)

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Name: Catmint/Robin
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Catmint20906
Jul 31, 2015 7:32 AM CST
A couple years ago I got a lovely coral pink P. paniculata from one of my favorite nurseries. The tag it had said 'Flame Coral'. Last year I thought it did not come back, but this year all of a sudden here it is blooming next to 'David'!



However, when going to upload my photo, I realized that it looks totally different from the other 'Flame Coral' photos, so I'm thinking now it must have been mislabeled?

I know that nursery also carries 'Cotton Candy' a lot, so I'm wondering if it might be that, with somehow the tag getting switched? Or maybe I should just file it under the parent P. paniculata, since we can't be sure at this point? Confused
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froggardener
Jul 31, 2015 8:44 AM CST
Hi Catmint, I would post a pic but have already cut them back for second show but I have a couple that are similar and they were tagged Flame series
and they look a lot like my fanick phlox
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Name: Catmint/Robin
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Catmint20906
Jul 31, 2015 8:52 AM CST
Thanks Jolana! I guess I'll go with the tag then! Thank You! Thumbs up
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bamira
Jul 31, 2015 9:37 AM CST
You can start a search Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
http://www.helenium-phlox.de/phlox/a-e-amos
Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Jul 31, 2015 3:28 PM CST
I have several Flame Coral - the center dark spot is purple and not as pronounced, and the main color is very bright. Allowing for camera and lighting differences that might look more pink or more coral at times, I doubt this one is Coral Flame. It actually looks like Pink Flame to me. If it is, you will be happy with it -- the entire Flame series is an outstanding group of short phlox cultivars.
And maybe this is because it's late in the season, but I have found more mis-labeled plants around lately than I have ever seen before. Last weekend I saw a whole group of large dark-leaved sedum labeled as "Thundercloud." Not.
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Catmint20906
Jul 31, 2015 4:03 PM CST
Pink flame-- thanks Jeanie I'll take a look at it!
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bamira
Jul 31, 2015 5:02 PM CST
bamira said:You can start a search Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
]http://www.helenium-phlox.de/phlox/a-e-amos

I'm sorry that inanely, I was reminded on your search recently I wanted to identify the one my phlox, When I found the fifth identical so I gave up Hilarious!

Name: Catmint/Robin
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Catmint20906
Jul 31, 2015 7:00 PM CST
That is a lot of beautiful phloxes, Stefan!

Here is flame light pink:



and here:
http://www.ppandl.net/index.cfm/id/47/plant_id/737

and mine again:


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bamira
Jul 31, 2015 7:37 PM CST
It is good to find a web page with the description of the flowers, for the confrontation
the images are often muddled colors, you yourself know best how your flower looks
I tip my hat to you.
http://www.perennials.com/plants/phlox-paniculata-light-pink...
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Catmint20906
Jul 31, 2015 8:11 PM CST
thanks, Stefan. It is definitely a dwarf variety and has bloomed in mid to late summer, so it fits the 'flame' description in the 'Perennials' link very well, and 'flame' is also what was on the tag. It just seems to be the color that was off, as it's much lighter than the 'coral' color. My guess is there were a couple different 'Flame' varieties sitting next to each other in the nursery, and maybe a tag got switched by accident somehow.

The photos in the 'perennials' link do not look much different for pink flame versus light pink flame! Shrug! I'll need to go out and look at it again and get another photo of it...
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bamira
Jul 31, 2015 8:30 PM CST
Sun Exposure Flower Colour
Full Sun Deep Pink
Partial Shade Light Pink

the intensity or color shade may also affect the composition of the soil, zona, elevation...(above sea level)
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Catmint20906
Aug 1, 2015 5:03 AM CST
I did not realize that sun exposure affected the color of phlox, Stefan. Do you have a link to an article about that that I can read?
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bamira
Aug 1, 2015 5:37 AM CST
It's on all the flowers, the intensity and length of time of exposure ...
Here, for example,
http://www.hiddenvalleyhibiscus.com/misc/colors.htm
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/gardennotes/142.html - on the page of links to other factors
in General, the effects of
https://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/mg/botany/environmental.h...

besides the picture
http://www.perennials.com/plants/phlox-paniculata-light-pink...
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Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Aug 1, 2015 8:02 AM CST
Cat, I was at a nursery last night and lo and behold they had Pink Flame in bloom there. (V8 moment, should have taken a picturevof it!) I thought it looked very much like yours. There is a separate Light Pink Flame cultivar that is, not surprisingly, lighter in color. I found a good listing of the Flame series from Skagit Gardens that included photos. I'm posting from my phone right now so I can't provide a link, but it would be easy to find.
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Catmint20906
Aug 1, 2015 12:35 PM CST
Thanks Jeanie--sounds like it's probably pink flame then! Thank You! Thumbs up
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Kabby
Aug 2, 2015 4:49 AM CST
I don't know what Pink Flame looks like but it reminds me of Eva Cullum.
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Catmint20906
Aug 2, 2015 6:03 AM CST
you're right, Kabby, it does look like that one, too! I would hesitate, though, because that's not a variety I've ever seen at this particular nursery. Shrug!
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Catmint20906
Aug 2, 2015 9:14 AM CST
We have decided on Pink Flame--thanks to all and especially to Jeanie for suggesting it!! Thank You! Thumbs up
compare with:
http://www.perennials.com/plants/phlox-paniculata-pink-flame...
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Name: Jeanie
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foraygardengirl
Aug 6, 2015 6:22 AM CST
Happy to help. Nice photo!
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