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Aug 31, 2015 4:41 PM CST
Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
Offering 400+ Salvias and counting
Butterflies Region: California Hummingbirder Salvias Garden Ideas: Level 1
Our experience with these is that they need to be cut back hard after every bloom cycle. The exception seems to be the dry inter-mountain area of the west, where this was developed. Of course local nurseries want them to bloom for sale, and hence won't cut them back for proper growth. Don't be shy - give them a hard haircut to keep them compact.
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Aug 31, 2015 5:01 PM CST
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Name: Judy
NW MO (Zone 6a)
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Thank you Kermit for your input! I have learned a lot from reading your comments and from info on the FBTS website! I actually did cut back the second one I bought because it was all sprawled horizontally and that one, though smaller overall, is growing in better now and finally has the beginnings of bloom stalk on a couple branches. I probably would not have needed to stake it at all but wanted to be extra cautious in case we got more of the really heavy rains we had late spring into early summer!
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Sep 1, 2015 12:00 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
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FBTS said:Our experience with these is that they need to be cut back hard after every bloom cycle. The exception seems to be the dry inter-mountain area of the west, where this was developed. Of course local nurseries want them to bloom for sale, and hence won't cut them back for proper growth. Don't be shy - give them a hard haircut to keep them compact.


@FBTS

What do you mean by "they need to be cut back hard after every bloom cycle" ? Mine just keeps putting out buds and flowers. I do deadhead the individual flowers and the the stems if any that are finished blooming.
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Sep 1, 2015 6:54 PM CST
Name: Kermit Carter
Elk, California (Zone 9a)
Offering 400+ Salvias and counting
Butterflies Region: California Hummingbirder Salvias Garden Ideas: Level 1
In moist climates Windwalker grows so fast it gets top heavy and breaks. We pinch them twice just in 3 1/2 inch pots! In the ground, we'll cut a branch back 1/4 to 1/2 after it flowers out, to get low branching and stronger stems. To do so you might have to sacrifice a few of the last flowers on a stem, but its a small price to pay fr a stronger plant.
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Sep 3, 2015 3:05 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Laughter is the Best Medicine!
Region: United States of America Rabbit Keeper Hummingbirder Salvias Charter ATP Member Birds
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@FBTS

Thanks for sharing your info! Good to know!
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Sep 10, 2015 11:34 AM CST

I grow Windwalker without any supplemental water at all and in barren sandy soil and it still sprawls. Next year I will give it a couple of pinches, the last in June and see what happens. The flower is great, very large for the type, and the color very saturated.
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Sep 10, 2015 2:00 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Laughter is the Best Medicine!
Region: United States of America Rabbit Keeper Hummingbirder Salvias Charter ATP Member Birds
Echinacea Butterflies Tender Perennials Bee Lover Container Gardener Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
@WardDas

Welcome! Welcome!

I agree with everything you stated. I'm hoping mine survives the winter in a container. If not, then I'll order another one and pinch it back for bushiness next year. The flower is stunning, large and non fading. This Salvia is a 'winner'!
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Sep 12, 2015 4:47 PM CST
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Name: Judy
NW MO (Zone 6a)
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
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Wow what a difference a simple thing like less water and appropriate pruning make!!! My first Windwalker Royal Red Salvia has multiple bloom stalks now and is filling in nicely. The tip of the tallest main branch comes up to my nose and I am almost 5ft 7in (and of course it isn't perfectly upright)- amazing!! The hummingbirds have been all over it since there are more blooms to attract their attention. My second one is now blooming, the longest stalk, and filling in nicely despite the loss of the second longest stalk that was staked - one of my puppies decided to "prune" it off early about 4 inches from the ground. All but the last picture are of the first one, the last picture is the second one.This is definitely a keeper!

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Sep 12, 2015 4:49 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Judy
NW MO (Zone 6a)
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Salvias Seed Starter Frogs and Toads Foliage Fan Birds
@WardDas
I am pretty new to this site myself- just joined at the time I posted this thread. I want to welcome you too!! And thanks for your input! Welcome! Thank You!
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Sep 12, 2015 6:56 PM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Laughter is the Best Medicine!
Region: United States of America Rabbit Keeper Hummingbirder Salvias Charter ATP Member Birds
Echinacea Butterflies Tender Perennials Bee Lover Container Gardener Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
@jg0613

Great pics and thanks for sharing them. Cute little doggie also. I tip my hat to you. Lovey dubby Thumbs up
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Sep 13, 2015 1:15 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Judy
NW MO (Zone 6a)
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Salvias Seed Starter Frogs and Toads Foliage Fan Birds
@Marilyn Thank You!
Actually there are 2 of my doggies, a different one in second and third pic. Not the best view of either of them Smiling But they are pretty special. In second pic my oldest puppy Frankie, a red sable and white Papillon almost 11 mo old. In the third pic Little Bear- he is our Blonde long hair Chihuahua and about 10 yr old. When I am photographing plants I try to do it when the dogs are in the house or occupied in another part of the yard but I had good light and honestly wasn't paying attention and didn't notice them in those pics till after I took them. They nibble on the long weedy grass at base of the fence- time to pull and trim those weeds!!
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Sep 14, 2015 12:13 AM CST
Name: Marilyn
Kentucky (Zone 6a)
Laughter is the Best Medicine!
Region: United States of America Rabbit Keeper Hummingbirder Salvias Charter ATP Member Birds
Echinacea Butterflies Tender Perennials Bee Lover Container Gardener Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
@jg0613

I wouldn't think any grass and/or weeds would be good for them.
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Sep 14, 2015 1:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Judy
NW MO (Zone 6a)
Annuals Hummingbirder Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Plant Lover: Loves 'em all!
Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Salvias Seed Starter Frogs and Toads Foliage Fan Birds
@Marilyn
There are definitely plants that are toxic to dogs if eaten. A little grass doesn't hurt them- they don't eat a lot. It is weedy grass. I have made sure to identify the weeds in the fenced area of the back yard that they have acces to and made sure nothing is toxic. Not all my dogs do this and the ones that do don't do it all the time. I also never have them outside unless my husband or I is out with them to supervise. They are indoor dogs, only out for potty and for periods of play in nice weather.

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