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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Jul 27, 2011 7:25 PM CST
Some very nice, some relatively blah, but it's hard to find a bad lily...
Excuse the poor quality photos of the parents. Most are from film photos (not digital), and scanned when I was very new at the whole process.

Parents: Sweet Surrender, and Dots and Dashs

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Sweet Surrender x Dots and Dashs
The first two out of many seedlings bloomed this season.
#1 upfacing:
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#2 ufacing with slightly recurved petals
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Jul 27, 2011 7:50 PM CST
I'm a little baffled with this one, as the result so far is unexpected. Maybe I got my labeling mixed up...

Parents: Shirley, and unknown old cultivar

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Shirley x unknown old cultivar
One bloomed this season out of many to come. It seems to have inherited the desirable trait of hiding its pollen within the rolled in anthers. The pollen is there; it's just not easily accessible.
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Jul 27, 2011 8:06 PM CST
Parents:
Lilium leichtlinii x Lilium maculatum var. wilsonii

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Two bloomed this season out of five. The color seems to be darker then either of the parents. All have shiny (from L. maculatum) and dark green (from L. leichtlinii) foliage.
#1 outfacing
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#2 outfacing
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foliage
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Jul 27, 2011 8:30 PM CST
Parents:
Madam Butterfly (Aurelian lily), White Henryi

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Madam Butterfly x White Henryi
#1
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#2
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#3
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#4
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#5
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#6
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Name: Lily Martagon
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sgardener
Jul 27, 2011 10:09 PM CST
They are all lovely. I specially like Madame Butterfly x White Henryi cross #3.
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Jul 29, 2011 11:03 AM CST

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My favorite is Madame ButterflyxWhite henryi cross # 1. You do nice work!
Tracey
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Jul 29, 2011 1:06 PM CST

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They all look nice Rick. I like #3 of Madam Butterfly x White Henyri best too. I just have a preference of the yellow over orange. But #6 is nice too for the way it hangs.

On the Shirley x NOID how do you know there is pollen there? Did you have to poke around to see it? I have lilies like that but assumed they had no pollen.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Jul 30, 2011 1:21 AM CST
pardalinum said:On the Shirley x NOID how do you know there is pollen there? Did you have to poke around to see it? I have lilies like that but assumed they had no pollen.


Actually, that parent with the "weird" stamens was the one I had called "pollenless yellow" in my DG posts. But in fact, there is pollen, and I only realized it this year. When I looked at what real pollenless lilies are like where the anthers are absent or nearly absent, it prompted me to dissect an anther and discovered the pollen. At least it looks like pollen (I don't know what else it could be). Whether it is viable is another unanswered question.

I suppose I should confess that I may have jumped the gun with the Shirley x NOID seedling as when I looked at it, the whole stamen didn't seem as well developed as that parent, and I assumed that what I see would develop better as the plant matures. But there was still evidence of anthers rolled in from the sides, hiding where pollen would be, and my confession is that I don't really remember now if I saw anything that could be pollen or not. It's so miniscule.Next season I'll have a better handle on this.

Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
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gwhizz
Aug 2, 2011 3:33 AM CST
hard to find a bad one there Rick.Im mesmorised by ''dots n dashes'' different?
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Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Aug 3, 2011 10:05 PM CST
Dots and Dashs (No "e" in Dashs) is a Minnesota introduction bred by Ruth and Hugh Cocker of Rochester, Minnesota. It was created by hand pollination with mixed pollen. Consequently, it's siblings range widely in form and color.

The RHS (Royal Horticultural Society) that oversees lily registering, almost didn't let Hugh use that name because "dashs" wasn't spelled correctly. But that was the way Hugh wanted it, and he persevered. Incidentally, the name is in reference to Morse code, according to Hugh.
Name: Christine
Southeastern MN (Zone 4a)
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Christine27360
Aug 5, 2011 1:08 AM CST
Hi Rick -- well that Dots and Dashs (aka Morse Code) is very neat and since I only live 20 mins from Rochester I may have to make a visit to the Cocker's place if they still live there -- didnt know anyone was so close to me!!! Thumbs up
"Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."
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Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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gwhizz
Aug 5, 2011 3:13 AM CST
Well,Christine,.,.a big ask!!-can you see if they have any seed? i think its brilliant,.,.Rick,some of my 'martagon caucasicum' seedlings are up,.,.im stoked[ it feels like so long ago,since i planted the seeds]
lily freaks are not geeks!
Name: Christine
Southeastern MN (Zone 4a)
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Christine27360
Aug 5, 2011 11:33 AM CST
I have to locate them frst -- looks like Hugh is 90 yrs old. I see addresses for Rochester and Chatfield (both about a 15 - 20 min drive from my home. Does anyone have a website for them or know if they live in Roch and have their Lilies in Chatfield? etc etc.... Any info you have is welcome, then I will go searching for them!!! Hurray!
"Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."
2 Corinthians 9:6
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Aug 5, 2011 1:51 PM CST

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I understand that the Cocker's retired and sold much of their stock. It is also my understanding that some of their work is available this Fall through Faraway Flowers. It's nice to see their work is being preserved.
Tracey
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Aug 6, 2011 9:54 AM CST
Yes, the Cockers are retired and don't live at the Rochester farm anymore. It was a few years ago that they decided, and allowed members of the (Minnesota) North Star Lily Society to come during bloom time and tag lilies from there gardens to remove in the fall. And a team of gardeners came and dug up many remaining bulbs in their field for non-profit sale. They very well could have sold outright some of their lilies, but I don't know about that. Ruth and Hugh live in a retirement complex now and like it very much.
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages The WITWIT Badge Garden Photography Region: Minnesota Plant Identifier
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Leftwood
Aug 6, 2011 10:06 AM CST
Anthony, if those turn out to be the true Lilium martagon var. caucasicum, I will be really jealous. Incidentally, the Lilium speciosum var. gloriosoides seed are sure slow. Of the three viable seeds, two had finally germinated and now have respectable size tiny bulblets, ready for cold treatment any time now....
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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pardalinum
Aug 6, 2011 10:07 AM CST

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I heard that... I'm all ears!
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Aug 6, 2011 10:13 AM CST

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hee. hee.
Tracey
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
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gwhizz
Aug 6, 2011 6:02 PM CST
Gloriosoides spy's lurking ,Rick ,.,.thats great to hear that you have bulbs,.I know Oystein managed to grow 2. Mine are in a great spot,under the north facing balcony,in a little poly 6-pack cooler,.,.Its been very weird weather here and i think all of the seedlings[many types] think a year has passed[in 4 months]-but also, i have been babying a few of them!
lily freaks are not geeks!
Name: Christine
Southeastern MN (Zone 4a)
Charter ATP Member Heucheras I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 2 I sent a postcard to Randy! Keeps Horses
Region: Minnesota Birds Raises cows Cat Lover Hostas Farmer
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Christine27360
Aug 7, 2011 10:42 AM CST
Well that means I will not be driving around Southern MN searching for them!!! Maybe I will visit them at their home and sit a spell! Smiling
"Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously."
2 Corinthians 9:6

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