How about a substitute for pot.?
It would really disappear.

A substitute AND legal, well that might not be as fun for some

I was thinking that, but wasn't sure I wanted to say it. Glad you did. Like the year someone stripped all the seed pods from our datura. Saved me from picking them all off.

ge, it sounds like your strawberry-leafed plant is Virginia creeper, and it is creeping over from my neighbor. One of the big box stores was selling it here last year. Nearly had a stroke but then I recovered and really wanted to go postal on them and the plants.

So hard to controle ones self. I am going to check it out to see what I can do to eleminate or at least hold it back.
Datura?
I had no idea.Having not entertained "substances" since 1980.

JoAnn, I just envisioned you getting your disco boogie on at Studio 54 in the 70s, LOL.

Here's the story.
I married young,had 4 girls in steady order for 5 years.
I got to raise them when the oldest was 10.
Thankfully I was able to go to college whenthe youngest started kindergarten.
Its those wild college kids that corupted me. I experimented at parties
I got my conciousness raised and never looked back.
Its been over 40 years.
What a great life.
Kids are grown,I have grandchildren graduating from college.
Bless the Love and Peace movement for comming along when it did.

hee hee I got all of that expanded consciousness out of the way well before marriage and family. Can't afford to lose a day or two anymore.

But then again, maybe I wouldn't care so much about what the bunnies are doing to the lilies. That is my biggest, hair-pulling problem I have in caring for my garden. Found this nice little pile of stems ~ and this is from just 1 clump. They wiped out another entire clump of trumpets, save one. Completely immune to Plantskydd and Repels-all.

Maybe I'll go smoke some morning glory seeds......

Stinkin rabbits!

Re: rabbits, my advice: just put up a short rabbit fence and be done with it. Two feet high is very adequate.

Jo Ann, Virginia creeper has five leaflets, not three, if it helps with the identification. Virginia creeper (usually sold as Engleman Ivy) is much larger and coarser than strawberries, and also has tendrils.

As for edible "weeds", there's a Norwegian guy on the North American Rock Garden Society (NARGS) forum that is in to everything edible. His avatar is a a large and very enticing plate of mixed wild salad greens. A discussion veered off on a chickweed tangent and he posted a pic of his chickweed harvest:
http://nargs.org/smf/index.php...

Back to the real discussion at hand...

pardalinum said:Most of the feeding occurs via the stem roots that grow on the stem between the soil surface and the top of the bulb.

This is true for nearly all lilies, and certainly all the ones most people grow (Asiatics, orientals, trumpets, and their crosses). However there are a few exceptions, as some lilies do not grow roots above the bulb. These are all the species in the martagon section (Ll. martagon, tsingtauense, medeoloides, distichum, hansonii), a good portion of the American species, and a few very obscure Asian lily species. Except for the martagons, L. michiganense, L. canadense and L. superbum, you hardly need to take note.

Putting in the rest of my two cents, I usually yank the yankable dead or dying lily stalks in the fall. It does leave the area unmarked, so you have to tread gently in the spring, not knowing exactly where they might emerge, but it does remove most of the "pesky" stem bulblets. There is an art to stem yanking, much like rhubarb. Place your feet near the stem to prevent the bulb from pulling out of the ground (but not too near since you want to pull the stem bulblets too), firmly grasp the stem, lean forward and give a quick tug. If the stem doesn't break below the ground, then leave it be. Further wrangling would be doing more damage to the bulb's basal roots. Then you can cut them as Pard suggests.

Not that you should pull the stems in fall, it's just what I do. There are pros and cons for both methods.

I pull them.I just cant deal with extra bulbs.I will have to dig and divide in another year anyway.
Sorry about your rabbit problem Moby.
I bought Plantskys in mid winter to controle voles. Either they had done their worst before I sprinkled it,or it doesnt work.
I use Repellsall but dont believe the 2 month period its active.
I spray every 3 to 4 weeks.Its for deer.We have bunnies but not many.

JoAnn, thanks for sharing, and kudos to you for pursuing your education after starting your family- that sure isn't easy, and is the most important step to self empowerment.

Can't really say I've got much of a regimen for maintaining Lily beds other than composting, but I'm thinking that may need to change. Some thick clumps of Asiatics simply didn't show up this year, as well as a few OTs. I didn't detect any tunnels in those areas that would have suggested rodent activity, so I'm stumped. The missing clumps would have been in their 4th year, and I probably would have been dividing them this year.

I wonder if they were too wet?
I lost some too,where there were no tunnels.
I also lost many in one area to voles.Plantskydd was useless.

It was really wet in late winter and through most of spring, so that's a possibility. The soil here drains well though.

ive learned a coupl of things[so far],..,and i will use them in my talk about 'liliums' on wednesday night,.,.'thanks'!

Great! Give them a great speech, Anthony.

Salmon Classic ,the first of the asiatics to bloom

Really pretty. Nice combo with the nepeta.

Sorry that's lavander.The dark salvia beyond is MayNight

Beautiful, JoAnn! What is the blueish purple short plant at the base of a couple of the Lavenders?