Plant ID forum: Is this a Chenille Plant?

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Name: Jean
Hot Springs Vlg, AR, DeLand, F
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rocklady
Oct 21, 2015 7:36 AM CST
My neighbor sent me this photo and I believe it is a chenille plant. Is this correct?
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Name: Jean
Prairieville, LA (Zone 9a)
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Moonhowl
Oct 21, 2015 8:04 AM CST
That looks right to me. Not sure which Acalypha but give this a look.


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Name: Jean
Hot Springs Vlg, AR, DeLand, F
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rocklady
Oct 21, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Thank You! Jean. I think the neighbors will be satisfied with "Chenille Plant". The plant was at their son's home in Texas and he told them it was a mum!
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Name: Donald
Eastland county, Texas (Zone 8a)
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needrain
Oct 21, 2015 9:09 AM CST
Always can learn something on ATP! Database says it can be a perennial. I always thought they were annuals. Got my interest a bit more now Smiling .
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Name: Danita
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Danita
Oct 21, 2015 9:17 AM CST
No, that's a Celosia. Most likely the cultivar called 'Intenz'. Smiling

Celosia argentea 'Intenz Classic'


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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Oct 21, 2015 9:20 AM CST
Hmmm, I think I agree with Danita. My first thought was Celosia also.
Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Oct 21, 2015 9:28 AM CST
I stand corrected @rocklady , Jean. Danita has given you the correct ID.
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Oct 21, 2015 9:35 AM CST
LOL! My first thought on seeing the photo was some sort of Amaranthus, but decided it might be too small. I wonder how closely related the Acalypha, Celosia and Amaranthus families are?

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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Oct 21, 2015 9:49 AM CST
Acalypha is in Euphorbiaceae and Amaranthus and Celosia are in Amaranthaceae


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Name: Danita
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Danita
Oct 21, 2015 9:56 AM CST
Celosia and Amaranthus are both in the family Amaranthaceae. However, Acalypha is in the family Euphorbiaceae which is pretty far from Amaranthaceae. (at least by current taxonomy, who knows what they'll discover tomorrow! Hilarious! )

Edit: oops, cross-posted with Jean!
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Name: Donald
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needrain
Oct 21, 2015 10:00 AM CST
Thanks Jean! I really do want to check out the Acalypha further. Euphorbs might have longer lifespans if protected from frost. I assume the rating for Zone 11 is where it can be grown outside and survive which puts it squarely in with the tropicals as far as temps go.
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Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Oct 21, 2015 10:22 AM CST
I wonder why the Celosia argentea says that it's an annual in the database here, yet has a hardiness rating? A plant needs to be perennial somewhere to have a hardiness rating.

@Terrafirma it says in the database that you have that plant. Is it still around?
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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Oct 21, 2015 10:25 AM CST
My MIL had A wilkesiana growing in the ground beside a west facing wall. We are zone 9a . She would throw a sheet over it if frost was predicted, and add a sheet of visqueen over the cloth for a freeze. It froze back to the ground a couple times, but resprouted in the spring.

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Name: Jean
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Moonhowl
Oct 21, 2015 10:29 AM CST
Celosia Argentea are tender perrenials. That they are listed as annuals adds to the confusion. They are grown as annuals in zones that can not support them over winter, but that does not make them an annual.
Name: stone
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stone
Oct 21, 2015 12:28 PM CST
I grow chenille in my zone 8 garden without protection from winter freezes.
The flowers are remarkably similar, but chenille doesn't turn colour as the amaranth is... Also, the seeds on the amaranth are going to be pretty obvious.
In the 3 years or so that I've had the acalypha pendula, I've not noticed any seeds.
Name: Tiffany
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purpleinopp
Oct 21, 2015 3:47 PM CST
Agreed, taking a perennial to where it can't survive perennially doesn't make it an annual, (but understandably & necessarily, they are sometimes sold in places where not hardy with labels that say annual, so the buyer has no wrong expectations.)
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terrafirma
Oct 21, 2015 3:47 PM CST
Tiffany, no, this one was in the ground and did not survive last winter. Even though we had a fairly mild one...Only a couple of freezes, but lots of frosty conditions. Wishing now that I had potted it up. Oh well, live and learn.

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