Lilies forum: It's about to begin! Lily season 2015. The South.

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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 1, 2015 5:40 AM CST
The last couple of days have brought some colour out in the earliest buds and now it's a race to see who will open first.

(Not) Yellow Bunting?

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(Obviously.... The seed was meant to be Yellow Bunting, but it looks just like the other pumilum strain, Golden Gleam. Golden Gleam was my first lily to flower last year. Maybe the kids switched labels on me! Hilarious! )

Push Off?

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(My money's on this....)

...or this completely underwhelming seedling?

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I focused on the foliage deliberately because it solves a mystery for me. This seedling is from a pollenless Mont Blanc seedling pollinated by Budderlord. It was a little experiment to see if the pollenless trait passed on... but what I see already is a plant that is the image of Mount Blanc - same dull brown stem and short, brown-tipped foliage. Neither parent showed foliage like this but I'm now certain that Mont Blanc was the father or grandfather of Budderlord. A second dose of Mont Blanc's genes had to have come through the pollen parent in order for this trait to reappear. If I'm not making sense, suffice to say I'm feeling well educated by this little duckling.

Even though the seedling is as dull as dishwater and will end up in soup, it taught me something. Experimenting to learn about the genetics you're hybridising with is important fun!
Skåne, Sweden (Zone 7b)
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William
Nov 1, 2015 9:16 AM CST
How strange ones mind works, as your first image of L. pumilum makes me long not for lilies, but for snowdrops. Must be the shape of the bud and a general desire to come through the autumn and approaching winter over here. Or perhaps I'm just a bit crazy Hilarious!

Anyway, certainly a delight to see some beautiful and promising buds Smiling Looks like you have a large nursery section!
Name: Rick R.
near Minneapolis, MN zone 4a
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Leftwood
Nov 1, 2015 5:38 PM CST
Regarding your first pic of an orange bud: was it silly of me to just assume that Golden Gleam was yellow?

...or this completely underwhelming seedling?

Yow. And I thought I was brutal.
It could be that Butterlord, even though having pollenless parentage, has no recessive pollenless genes by the (un)luck of the draw. Certainly a better bet, though, and I might have done the same thing. On the other hand, the grandparent "reappearance" is not so uncommon, so I am told.

Interesting that Mont Blanc, not being pollenless, would have pollenless gene(s) that are dominant. http://garden.org/thread/view_post/445383/

Tim Zimmerman (here in Minnesota) has been doing a lot of breeding work with pollenless asiatics, especially trying to get larger flowers. Years ago, at a Minnesota Lily Society meeting he featured a talk on his hybridizing efforts. It was quite interesting, but heck if I can find my notes on it now(!). I am sure he could convey some useful information if you are pursuing this line of breeding. Tree mail me, and I can give you his email.
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 2, 2015 9:59 PM CST
When all that's gold is not yellow... Blinking

Maybe I am being a bit mean. Hilarious!

I wish I had my records from back then so I could see which breeding combinations brought out the pollenless trait in 'Mont Blanc' seedlings. I no longer have it but it was such a good survivor in my old, dry, sandy garden.... Where I left it. I just never liked the foliage.

With the pollenless line, I liked the old variety 'Corsage' and wondered if I could create something similar. I should really be lenient with this little seedling, now I think about it. It might be the most concentrated repository of 'Mont Blanc' genes I still have.

William, I have about 13x12m fenced off from the wildlife for my nursery. And I'm doing my best to fill it! If you're crazy you're in good company. Green Grin!

Tomorrow... tomorrow's the day for first lily bloom....
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 2, 2015 11:07 PM CST
Della, it seems your Liliums are ahead of mine. I don't know which will open first: either my Lilium candidum or an asiatic hybrid (salmon/orange with a band of speckles. The others are far behind.
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 4, 2015 6:19 PM CST
@dellac, have your Lilies opened? I think one of mine could open tomorrow (asiatic hybrid).

Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 4, 2015 11:28 PM CST
Indeed! Here's 'Push Off' to, err... push off the season >.<



The stem, buds and foliage are darker but the colouration in the flower centre is somewhat lighter than in Tiny Padhye, which it otherwise resembles.

Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 4, 2015 11:59 PM CST
Bravo!!!!!! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

First Lilium of the season in the Southern Hemisphere!

I have Tiny Padhye (probably the only one correctly identified so far Sticking tongue out ). When I purchased 3 bulbs in bloom I wasn't sure whether I liked them or not. Now I can tell you I love those little floriferous buddies! Several died last summer, but I still have some!

Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 5, 2015 12:06 AM CST
Yay for surviving flower buddies! Group hug
Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Nov 5, 2015 8:17 AM CST
Della, you were pushin' that 'Push Off'. It's really an early showing! The moment we've been waiting for. Thumbs up
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 5, 2015 7:48 PM CST
My Lily is nagging on my nerves Sticking tongue out and still has not opened:


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It's silly: I know what it looks like, but .... I want to see it!
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 5, 2015 8:53 PM CST
I know that feeling, Ursula! Now I want to see it too; beautiful photo.

Lorn, I don't know about pushing, but I might have been pulling... just a little bit. Green Grin! Anyway, seems we're three days earlier than last season, when Anthony reported 'Push Off' as the first to flower on November 8th. Last year the seasons were all mixed up and we had very little sun. This year it feels like it's been summer for weeks already, even though we still get a few cold nights and the last frost wasn't long ago.

I'm being taunted by buds too... pumilum just seems to get richer and richer in colour, and Lilium mackliniae I thought I had killed but apparently not (yet):



Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 6, 2015 8:13 PM CST
Please meet my so awaited Miss Lily
(that's not her commercial name - if you know it, please tell me):

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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 7, 2015 4:31 AM CST
Hurray! A lovely warm bloom! I have no idea of her name though.

My pumilum strain (it must be Golden Gleam - I must have gotten the labels switched!) opened today:



Name: Lorn (Roosterlorn)
S.E Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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Roosterlorn
Nov 7, 2015 5:22 AM CST
Love these little show-offs. Always first here.
Name: ursula
Chile (Zone 9b)
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Mutisia
Nov 7, 2015 5:35 PM CST
This is how Miss Lilly looks today:

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Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 8, 2015 12:31 AM CST
I love that shade of orange. It reminds me of Kentucky only the colour is richer.

I found last year's Golden Gleam pictures:


Different oranges! I guess the deeper, distinctly un-golden pumilum is neither Yellow Bunting nor Golden Gleam.

Name: Paul
Nullawarre, Victoria,Australia (Zone 10b)
Region: Australia
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vanozzi
Nov 9, 2015 12:45 AM CST
Gee everyone is off to a flying start with asiatics, not a one in bloom here yet, but a few martagon seedlings have been strutting their stuff.
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and I can hardly wait to see this one



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Different latitudes, different attitudes
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
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dellac
Nov 9, 2015 4:26 AM CST
Ooh, nice to see the martagons. I thought I might see a first martagon stem bloom this year, but the wallabies bit it off!
Name: Tracey
Wisconsin (Zone 5a)
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magnolialover
Nov 9, 2015 5:31 AM CST

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Love those marties Paul.
Tracey

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