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Name: Diana
California (Zone 9b)
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deedolce
Nov 28, 2015 12:09 PM CST
Hi,
My name is Diana, and I'm as new as can be to the Semp world. I started wanting to make little 'gifts' for my fellow teachers by planting little succulents in recycled K cups, and bought 2 'hen and chicks' at my local nursery, and fell in love with the plant!

I've watched lots of videos on sempervivum and have read through lots the the threads here, and feel like I already know some of you. :)

I gave myself an early Christmas gift and placed a small order with SMG, and ordered some seeds from ebay too! I'm not sure how I'll do here in 9b, but it's the perfect cure for the Winter blahs. Hurray!

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 12:44 PM CST

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Hi Diana, and a big Welcome! to ATP. So glad you found your way here.

I see your hen and chicks look to be what is called tender succulents. Lovely plants and perfect for your zone 9 growing. They should be able to stay outdoors year round in your climate. What are your winter time low temps?

The sempervivum hen and chicks might be a bit more of a challenge for you since they are considered an alpine type succulent. To stay healthy they need winter conditions. Sometimes you can trick them by occasionally providing water in the form of ice cubes. They really prefer being outdoors, and don't do well at all indoors. Which ones did you get from SMG. It is an exceptional nursery for for starting a collection.

I hope you will share photos of your new plants when they arrive. Hurray!
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Nov 28, 2015 2:03 PM CST
I agree Yes...Welcome Diana!
I just moved out of CA zone 9b and during winter was able to keep the echeverias (the other "hen and chicks") and other tougher tender succulents outdoors under the protection of house eaves or frost cloth. To prevent the tender succulents from stretching out of shape indoors, a bright window would help or grow lites if away from a window.

Your waiting-to-arrive semps should do well. Just also be aware of too much sun exposure if conditions are too dry and hot and of rot if conditions are too wet. As anyone can attest here, good drainage is all important no matter which conditions.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 2:06 PM CST

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Great advice Bev. I think you are the expert on growing sempervivum in several different parts of the country, with totally different growing conditions. Thumbs up
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Nov 28, 2015 2:38 PM CST
Gee, I wouldn't say that; it's more like I'm an expert at having trouble growing sempervivium in "totally different growing conditions" Whistling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 2:50 PM CST

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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Every move you've made you found a way to grow them. I call that an expert. Green Grin!
Name: Diana
California (Zone 9b)
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deedolce
Nov 28, 2015 5:57 PM CST
Thank you for the welcome! The ones I got from the nursery are Commander Hay and Red Beauty. The ones I ordered are Pacific Rim, Just Plain Crazy and Poco Loco.

It gets down the 27-29F, and mostly in the low to mid 30's.

After reading here, I brought the ones I bought back outside, on a garden shelf. Hmmm, does anyone know if real chickens leave them alone? Our girls have free run of the backyard, so I'd have to keep that in mind. Hilarious!

I know it may be a challenge growing here, and probably even more so when we move to Tuscon in 3 1/2 years after I retire! Sighing!


Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Nov 28, 2015 6:42 PM CST
I'd experiment and sacrifice one to the chickens if they are interested but if not you can put the rest outside. Not sure where the ones you bought were originally situated but with any plant new to your home I would slowly acclimate new plants to harsher climate change whether it be sun or cold or wind. Enjoy Diana!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 7:15 PM CST

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It looks like you have enough chilling weather to make the sempervivum happy. Your semps are going to be very happy outdoors.

Oh boy, moving to Tuscon, as in Arizona? Now that is another story. Bev might be able to give you some tips on growing them in a desert climate.
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Nov 28, 2015 8:45 PM CST
If I was living in Tuscon I'd forget about these wimpy Sempervivums but would instead grow their larger cousins... the Agaves. And lots of 'em.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 8:54 PM CST

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Tim, did you really say wimpy? Blinking
I know you are just joking, aren't you. Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Nov 28, 2015 9:57 PM CST
Uh-uh, youse in trouble now, Tim! Hilarious!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 28, 2015 10:58 PM CST

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Whistling
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Nov 28, 2015 11:22 PM CST
Hello Diana Welcome! Honestly I agree with Tim, in that Tucson will give you so many other options, aeoniums and such - but until then I think your semps will need a semi shady place (especially in summer) morning sun - and I have a feeling your chickens may eat some of he plants, or at least displace them, since worms and bugs will be attracted to the plants - they are easily replanted though!! Welcome and enjoy - I see you have some other tender succulents they look great! I tip my hat to you.
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Sempervivums Region: Pacific Northwest Vegetable Grower Cactus and Succulents Sedums Bee Lover
Region: Oregon Dragonflies Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Composter Apples
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tcstoehr
Nov 29, 2015 4:55 PM CST
Uh-oh. I now fear my ATP account will be deleted by a moderator due to an inappropriate and offensive remark. Hilarious! I'll now make my situation even worse by adding fuel to the fire:

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Sempervivum 'Dallas' vs. Agave 'Parryi Truncata'

Just sayin'. But I have to admit that when left to a PNW winter, the semp will be the last one standing.

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Nov 29, 2015 4:59 PM CST

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tcstoehr said:Uh-oh. I now fear my ATP account will be deleted by a moderator due to an inappropriate and offensive remark. Hilarious! I'll now make my situation even worse by adding fuel to the fire:

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Sempervivum 'Dallas' vs. Agave 'Parryi Truncata'

Just sayin'. But I have to admit that when left to a PNW winter, the semp will be the last one standing.



Well said Tim. You are forgiven. But that agave is very handsome indeed. Good thing there is room for all kinds of plants to grow together. Big Grin
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Nov 29, 2015 5:08 PM CST
The thorns on the agave are scary! Whistling
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Nov 29, 2015 5:14 PM CST

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Just don't sit on it Greg.
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Nov 29, 2015 5:49 PM CST
Good advice Lynn! nodding Blinking Rolling on the floor laughing
Plants bring me peace and calm, more of what we all need Smiling
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums
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valleylynn
Nov 29, 2015 5:55 PM CST

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Green Grin!
I love being helpful. Whistling

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