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Jun 7, 2016 5:17 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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I'm always super-impressed by how much green you make grow out of one pot.

"Miracle-Gro" must be well-named!
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Jun 7, 2016 5:27 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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RickCorey said:I'm always super-impressed by how much green you make grow out of one pot.

"Miracle-Gro" must be well-named!


Thanks. The growing of the peas in pots works much better for me than trying to grow peas in ground.
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Jun 7, 2016 5:31 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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My snap and snow peas seemed very happy in the ground, once they managed to germinate. I think my cold, wet clay rotted them before they could emerge, unless I planted in late spring.

(My early summer is a lot like many people's mid-spring.)

I should try some early peas in pots!
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Jun 7, 2016 5:51 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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RickCorey said:My snap and snow peas seemed very happy in the ground, once they managed to germinate. I think my cold, wet clay rotted them before they could emerge, unless I planted in late spring.

(My early summer is a lot like many people's mid-spring.)

I should try some early peas in pots!


You should try the pots. It really works!!
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Jun 7, 2016 6:37 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
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That, and about fourty-eleven other things, are on my list for "when I have time" ... which means "when I retire".
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Jun 7, 2016 8:50 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Or, start the peas indoors and then plant out... much more reliable for me!
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Jun 8, 2016 8:26 AM CST
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Name: Rita
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Weedwhacker said:Or, start the peas indoors and then plant out... much more reliable for me!


I think that method is more work but I bet it works great to get them going in a cold spring.

I think that is one reason the pots work so well for me versus in ground. The pots are warmer than the cold ground in very early spring so the seeds come up.

http://garden.org/ideas/view/N...

One of my very first published garden ideas was the grow peas in pots idea.
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Jun 8, 2016 9:35 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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I am well into digging up the garlic now. I have only two varieties yet to dig, the Chesnok Red (lots - for me at least) and Russian Giant (very little). I will probably dig those up in a couple of days.

The background of the second picture shows some of the garlic already hanging for the two-week curing. The other side of the greenhouse has an equal amount of garlic hanging.

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Jun 8, 2016 3:56 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Looks good, Ken -- what kind are you holding in the photos? Do you plant anything where the garlic had been growing?
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Jun 8, 2016 4:22 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Tomato, melon, bell pepper, and cantaloupe last year. I haven't done a single seedling this year so it looks like my entire garden will be bare, other than some bunching onions that have been growing since last spring. I am just going to let those onion plants grow and see what they end up doing.

That variety in my arms is 'Music'.
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Jun 8, 2016 4:28 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Music is one of my favorites -- although it only makes 3 to 4 big cloves/bulb for me; is that true for you, or do you get more cloves from it ?

You could always plant something for "green manure" to help keep the weeds down and add some organic material to the soil when you dig it in later Smiling
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Jun 8, 2016 4:35 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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drdawg said:Tomato, melon, bell pepper, and cantaloupe last year. I haven't done a single seedling this year so it looks like my entire garden will be bare, other than some bunching onions that have been growing since last spring. I am just going to let those onion plants grow and see what they end up doing.

That variety in my arms is 'Music'.


Plant some bush beans. Those are fast and easy. Don't take up too much room either.
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Jun 8, 2016 4:53 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Because of my back surgery. slow recovery, and being so far behind when my "season" began with Tropical Plants & More, I just didn't start anything. It may be too late to start anything now. I have never grown beans, bush or pole. I don't really have much in the way of weeds in the raised garden. I don't know why.

Sandy, this is my first year for 'Music'. It was one of the six new varieties I planted. I like to plant 1/3 in new varieties, just so I can see what they do and how they taste. I was intrigued when I saw the long storage of 'Music', 6-9 mo. The typical hardneck stores for 4-6 mo.
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Jun 8, 2016 5:22 PM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville SC (Zone 7b)
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So Ijust harvested my first ever garlic: ojo rojo I think, a creole. Small heads but great taste. I'm hooked on garlic now, they are hanging in garage.

What to grow where I harvested garlic? I would like to grow bush beans but somewhere I heard that the beans can be stunted by garlic? Is that true? I have some dragon tongue bush beans is like to grow there, what is are your experiences?
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Jun 8, 2016 5:36 PM CST
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Name: Rita
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Ken, you don't need to "start" beans. Just put those bean seeds directly in ground were you want them and in a few days they will pop up and start growing. Beans are really easy and bush beans are fast.

Every nursery has some types of bush bean seeds so they are easy to find.
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Jun 8, 2016 6:18 PM CST
Name: Linda
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Discovered a new use for tomato cages today.......

One of our goldens found a den of baby bunnies buried in between some plants right in the middle of our garden. I don't know what mama bunny was thinking with such a poor location.

We knew we had to act fast to preserve the babies, so I got one of my rectangular-shaped tomato cages, stuck it in the ground (carefully around the bunny hutch) then took some plastic net-type fencing and wrapped it around the cage, leaving about 3" opening at the bottom. Dogs cannot get in; mama bunny can easily get in and out. Hopefully this will work......
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Jun 8, 2016 7:16 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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drdawg said:Because of my back surgery. slow recovery, and being so far behind when my "season" began with Tropical Plants & More, I just didn't start anything. It may be too late to start anything now. I have never grown beans, bush or pole. I don't really have much in the way of weeds in the raised garden. I don't know why.

Sandy, this is my first year for 'Music'. It was one of the six new varieties I planted. I like to plant 1/3 in new varieties, just so I can see what they do and how they taste. I was intrigued when I saw the long storage of 'Music', 6-9 mo. The typical hardneck stores for 4-6 mo.


I was surprised to find that some of my Music from last year (harvested at the end of July) is still good -- apparently storing it at a warmer temperature than I was doing previously was a huge factor in storage length. (For anyone interested, I've always stored my garlic in paper bags in our unheated (attached) garage, which ordinarily stays at least slightly above freezing temperatures; this year I again stored the garlic in paper bags, but in a spare bedroom that we keep cooler than most of the house but much warmer than then garage, around 58-60F during the winter.)

I usually plant some sort of Brassicas after my garlic comes out -- broccoli, Chinese cabbage, etc (I start plants from seed around the 1st of July to plant after the garlic comes out around the end of July). Or something like chard, or even a late crop of beets. Ken, if you decide to grow some beans at some point, I highly recommend pole beans... SO much easier than bending over to pick them!
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Jun 8, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
All my garlic are in brown paper bags and in our pantry. The pantry is certainly not as cool as a "root-cellar", which is supposed to be the ideal temperature for storing. Our panty is the same temperature as the rest of the house, averaging 74F in the warm months and 70F in the cooler months. Cooler would be better but my garlic stores very well.
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Jun 8, 2016 9:06 PM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville SC (Zone 7b)
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I think my comments got lost so in asking again:

What to grow where I harvested garlic? I would like to grow bush beans but somewhere I heard that the beans can be stunted by garlic? Is that true? I have some dragon tongue bush beans is like to grow there, what is are your experiences?
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Jun 9, 2016 7:10 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
Bromeliad Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plumerias Orchids
Region: Mississippi Master Gardener: Mississippi Hummingbirder Cat Lover Composter Seller of Garden Stuff
Judy, in the past I have planted all kinds of vegetables in the areas where the garlic was dug. I've just never planted any beans. Two years ago I planted sweet potatoes and they grew very lush (deer love those leaves!), but produced only small potatoes. I did not plant them again. It was suggested that I plant legumes, so that the soil will benefit from having those plants turned under in late summer, before my next garlic planting. I am not much of a "farmer". Whistling
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