Adeniums forum: Use of Charcoal

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Name: Rick
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RCanada
Jan 10, 2016 8:19 PM CST
Thought this would be interesting to read.

Hi, my name is Charlie! I’m going to tell you why I am so excited about charcoal! Charcoal isn’t just for cooking tasty food on the grill. In fact, people have been using charcoal for thousands of years to help their plants grow! It’s true! Charcoal is good for plants, and for the fungi, bacteria, and critters like me who live in the soil with the plants!
Better Than Barbecue... CHARCOAL HELPS PLANTS GROW!
The next time you’re cooking on the grill, remember the other amazing things we can do with charcoal! Bye!
In Brazil, scientists have discovered that native people once made large amounts of charcoal and mixed it in with the soil in their gardens. This produced a rich, dark soil that is now called “Terra Preta” or “Dark Earth”. Even though the soil was created 500 to 2500 years ago, it is still used by farmers today to grow bigger, healthier, and more valuable crops!1 It’s amazing that Terra Preta soils have remained fertile for SO LONG!
After the plants have grown, we can measure and weigh their leaves and roots. Also, we can stain the roots with a special blue dye that lets us see how much beneficial fungus is growing in the roots! This way, we can tell what types of charcoal help the plants grow best!
Brooke McBride-College of Forestry and Conservation, UM
The more that we understand about charcoal, the better we can use it to help our plants grow, and to help the environment! Charcoal is better for the environment than chemical fertilizers, and it can last in the soil for thousands of years! Also, when wood or other plant matter is turned into charcoal and mixed into the soil (instead of decaying or burning all the way into ash), it means that less CO2 is going up into the atmosphere. This may be a way for us to control global warming by reducing greenhouse gases!
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 10, 2016 8:30 PM CST
Thanks for sharing, Rick.

After cooking our foods with wood fire, whatever charcoal and ashes that are left are spread around our trees and other vegetation. The ashes keep slugs and snails away and have properties also that are beneficial to our plants; eventually the charcoal is incorporated into our soil.
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Jan 10, 2016 8:51 PM CST
Charcoal is a part of all my orchid media.
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 10, 2016 9:45 PM CST
By the way...over here we are still allowed to burn our green rubbish from vegetation as well as cardboard products. The trash pick-up service will not pick these up.
Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
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RCanada
Jan 10, 2016 10:26 PM CST
I need to learn how to send these articles through as a whole. It is missing pictures and some of written material.
I use the charcoal in my orchid and Hoya mix. Started putting a small amount in my mix for larger Adeniums, just to see how they respond.

We can burn outside also, Kadie. It is in the city that they cannot here.
Interesting on another note, how many seeds require fire or smoke to scarifying the seeds. Could also be the ash which helps? In California when they have a brush fire. It is there that the Matilja poppy (Romneya coulteri) grows. Also in cultivation.

Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Name: KadieD
Oceania, Mariana Islands (Zone 11b)
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Rainbow
Jan 11, 2016 1:39 AM CST
Rick, to provide a link to the article, bring your cursor arrow up to the URL http and right click, copy, then go to your reply box and right click then paste.
Name: Ibis
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IbisFla
Jan 11, 2016 7:46 AM CST
Is there a special charcoal for gardening? I've never really noticed, but then I've never really been looking for it.
Name: Rick
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RCanada
Jan 11, 2016 7:49 AM CST
Will give this a try, Kadie.

Ibis, I have only ever bought the charcoal which comes in a small bag at nursery.

Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
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drdawg
Jan 11, 2016 8:31 AM CST
I buy it in 1cf bags. Mine comes from orchid supply companies and it is graded: fine, medium, coarse. You do want to rinse it before use. There is a lot of charcoal dust that needs to be rinsed off. The dust doesn't do any harm to the plants, but it leaves a mess when draining from the pots.
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Name: Rick
Vancouver Island, Canada (Zone 8a)
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Tropicals Keeps Horses Cactus and Succulents Adeniums
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RCanada
Jan 11, 2016 8:35 AM CST
Let us try this once again. Adding here instead of editing up above.


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"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 11, 2016 11:59 AM CST
Nice page but hard to read the small text. Zooming to larger view on screen helps, but then the text becomes blurred. (Could very well be just me and my eyesight.) I suggest also including the site URL. Big Grin
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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Jan 12, 2016 8:42 AM CST
Interesting site.
http://www.biochar-international.org/biochar
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 12, 2016 12:59 PM CST
@ardesia I tip my hat to you.
In reading this article, it reminded me of another reason why I continue to use peat moss in my media...it has carbon which is needed for good healthy plant growth.
Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Jan 12, 2016 1:24 PM CST
KD, are you using peat or sphagnum moss?
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 12, 2016 1:40 PM CST
Ken, my understanding is peat moss is chopped up sphagnum moss. Sometimes it is referred to as sphagnum peat moss. I use peat moss aka sphagnum peat moss.

If anyone knows more about this matter and can enlighten me, I'm all ears!
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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drdawg
Jan 12, 2016 4:19 PM CST
On July 27, 2014, I had an article published on ATP concerning just this confusion, KD. You might like to pull that article up.
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Name: KadieD
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Rainbow
Jan 12, 2016 4:28 PM CST
Oky-doky!

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Name: Alice
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ardesia
Jan 12, 2016 6:40 PM CST
Try this one.....
http://garden.org/ideas/view/drdawg/1972/Sphagnum-Moss-vs-Pe...


FYI - you click on articles on the left side menu and years and years of articles come up. This one was on page 20.
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Name: Rick
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RCanada
Jan 12, 2016 6:55 PM CST
Peat Moss is produced from Peat bogs. The best, if you use Peat Moss is the Horticulture bales which have very long threads. Most of the Peat Moss sold in local nurseries or box stores is the fine powdery type.
Peat moss is not a good product to use with Adeniums.

Sphagnum Peat is usually in most cases a grayish white moss that is dry when sold and very long fibers. Hold a tremendous amount of water.

Rick
"Many times a day I realize how much my own outer and inner life is built upon the labors of my fellow men, both living and dead, and how earnestly I must exert myself in order to give in return as much as I received"
Name: Ken Ramsey
Starkville, MS (Zone 8a)
[url=www.tropicalplantsandmore.com]
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Composter Bromeliad Master Gardener: Mississippi Cat Lover Tropicals Plumerias
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drdawg
Jan 12, 2016 8:39 PM CST
Sphagnum peat really doesn't mean anything whatsoever. All peat comes from sphagnum moss. It should be labeled "Peat Moss". Sphagnum moss is not peat though. That's why I wrote the article. Sighing!
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