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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 18, 2016 4:24 PM CST
I have 3 Passiflora, which I purchased off of Ebay in 4-inch round plastic pots which I have been growing indoors. They are not doing well. One plant has lots most of its leaves. I'm having a hard time keeping them watered. I don't know what type of planting medium they are in, but they dry out very quickly. I know they need warmth and sunshine, but right now is not the time to put them outdoors. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can keep these plants alive ?
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 18, 2016 7:19 PM CST
Are they dry all they way to the bottom of the pot? I usually pot mine up a size or two if I can't put them out
Which passies did you get?
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 19, 2016 3:01 AM CST
The 3 Passiflora that I have are:

- Passiflora Caerulea
- Passiflora Nephrodes
- Passiflora Lady Margaret

Lady Margaret is doing very well. P. Caerulea is not doing well, and has lost most of its leaves.
P. Nephrodes is doing ok and has retained its leaves.
None of them are getting sunlight indoors. It is still too cool/cold outside to place them outdoors.
Or is it? Are they hardy?
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 19, 2016 1:00 PM CST
P. Caerulea has always been the first one to lose leaves if kept in too long if I start cuttings during the winter. The cuttings start with no leaves, they start growing leaves, then lose them indoors. I've never lost a plant tho

I would check the soil to make sure they aren't getting too much water, Smiling
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Name: Patrick Alan
Toms River, New Jersey (Zone 7a)
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AlanJ
Mar 19, 2016 2:55 PM CST
The potting mix the Passiflora are in is kinda weird. I think I should repot them into regular potting soil and go from there. I think the soil right now is staying to wet, although it drains
quickly.
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 19, 2016 6:49 PM CST
I agree, that is why I always repot mine as soon as they come in
Good luck, let me know how it goes. Smiling
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 22, 2016 8:51 AM CST
The Passiflora's are not doing well Sad Thumbs down I don't know what I can do to help these plants! Maybe I'm just not meant to grow them at all Shrug! P. Caerulea and P. Nephrodes were wilted and the leaves were all dried up this morning !!!! Are they dead ???? Shrug! I don't know what to do - so I watered them as the soil was dry (yet again!). I'm confused with these plants.
Here I was hoping they would be so easy to grow and bloom, and they are a total nightmare for me! Ugh ! Angry
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 22, 2016 7:52 PM CST
@AlanJ, can you take a pic of them? They actually sound like they have been overwatered. Most likely because of the soil
Without seeing them and sounding like nothing left to lose now. I would repot them in good soil
Did you say you got them off of ebay?
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 23, 2016 4:42 AM CST
Yeah, I'll take a pic tonight and post them here. The only one that is doing really well is P. Lady Margaret. P caerulea looks dead. All leaves are dried up on the vine. P. nephrodes still has its
leaves. I'll take a photo of P. caerulea and post it tonight. ~
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 23, 2016 4:30 PM CST
Hi Jolana -

Ok, here are the photo's of Passiflora Caerulea::


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As you can see, there are no leaves on the vine at all .

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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 23, 2016 5:34 PM CST
Were you watering them in that cellophane
I would repot in good soil, cut back to right above where I still see green. put them where they can get indirect light and see if you start getting new growth from stem or the root
If they don't make it, I will send you some in your spring
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 23, 2016 5:47 PM CST
Ok. No I took the pot out of the cellophane wrapper to water the pot. But I will repot the plant in
new potting soil, and trim back the plant, put it outdoors in direct sunlight and see if it grows.
I'll keep you posted.
Thanks.
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froggardener
Mar 23, 2016 6:03 PM CST
Ok, luck to you Smiling
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Mar 28, 2016 12:48 AM CST

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Not direct sunlight though, indirect as Jolana recommended. Thumbs up
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 28, 2016 11:43 AM CST
I have repotted all of the Passiflora. I had to cut the P. Caerulea all the way down to an inch above soil level. There was not much green on this vine. I hope this Passiflora will regrow.
The other 2 Passiflora - Lady Margaret and Nephrodes are doing ok and are growing.
Are my potted Passiflora not supposed to go outdoors ? Confused Shrug!
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Name: Jolana
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froggardener
Mar 28, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Do you mean now or when they start growing? When the start growing they can go out after being hardened off
What are the temps up there now ?
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Name: Patrick Alan
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AlanJ
Mar 28, 2016 2:02 PM CST
The Temps here in New Jersey right now range from 44-63 degrees.

I'm finding very conflicting information on the Internet regarding how to grow Passiflora.
Some websites say to grow them in full Sun. Others say Bright Light but Not Full Sun.
It's very confusing. These are Tropical plants, so I would think they should be in full sun.
I can put them outside in Bright Light under my awning or on the front porch patio in
Full sun. What do you suggest ?
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Name: tarev
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tarev
Mar 28, 2016 6:19 PM CST
Yes, some tropicals prefer low light and high humidity and warm temps..or high light with high humidity and warm temps. In my area, I have to provide some shade, when our temps start rolling into the high 90's to 100F ++ our humidity is just dismally low, so some shade helps my tropicals outdoors, but if it is too shaded, then the flowering aspect suffers. We only get the rains and good humidity levels outdoors during winter to early spring, by then most of my tropicals may be hiding indoors, since they cannot handle the cold temps. Then got to adjust watering intervals indoors since they are in slow down growing mode.

It will help if you have a humidity & temperature sensor indoor/outdoor that way you can see what the levels are. But lately I have learned to really wait till overnight temps stabilizes to at least near 48F and 50F, before I venture bringing out any plants hiding indoors, unless I got it already vernalized and acclimated from the nursery where I got it. But if hiding indoors, I wait,
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froggardener
Mar 28, 2016 6:46 PM CST
Yes, our temps are so far apart. All of my passies are in full sun and will be all spring and summer.
Yours are so small and haven't been out at all if the temps are going to be around fifty or higher during the day, and under an awning, they might be fine during the day but I wouldn't leave them out during the night yet
Alan, if you tree mail your address, I will send you a blue caerulea. I'm glad your others are pulling thru
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