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Mar 18, 2016 4:41 PM CST
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This is most likely from some wildflower seed I sowed but for the life of me I can't place it. It seems so familiar.

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Mar 18, 2016 5:25 PM CST
Name: Judy
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Maybe Mexican hat. Ratbilda.
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Mar 18, 2016 8:40 PM CST
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I think not. The foliage on Mexican hat is fine, almost ferny looking.
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Mar 18, 2016 9:12 PM CST
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Mar 18, 2016 9:34 PM CST
Name: Connie
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Yes, Limonium sinuatum is a common ingredient of wildflower mixes. I used to grow a lot of it for dried flower arrangements.

Statice (Limonium sinuatum 'Heavenly Blue')
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Mar 18, 2016 11:05 PM CST
Name: Leslieray Hurlburt
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How about Common Dogmustard (Erucastrum gallicum)?
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Mar 19, 2016 11:55 AM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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It's not Limonium although I would be thrilled if it were.

I'm pretty convinced Leslie is right at least to the degree that it's in the Diplotaxis genus.
The red stems should be a clue. I can't speak german but look at the last photo left side #4:
http://www.blumeninschwaben.de...

Maybe Diplotaxis muralis

And I think this one is written in Russian? @Zuzu
http://botany.cz/cs/diplotaxis...

This:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/...

http://plants.usda.gov/core/pr...
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Mar 19, 2016 11:59 AM CST
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Nope, not Russian. It's Czech.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:01 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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Thank you Zuzu. Can you read it?
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Mar 19, 2016 12:08 PM CST
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It's close enough to Russian that I can make some sense of it, yes. Big Grin
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Mar 19, 2016 12:13 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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Does it say anything about red stems?



I just went out and crushed a leaf & there is no mustard type odor at all.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:25 PM CST
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I see nothing about red stems. It does say something about an unpleasant odor.
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Mar 19, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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It looks a lot like this image of D. muralis: http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant...
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Mar 19, 2016 1:55 PM CST
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Translated on google ..

https://translate.google.co.uk...
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Mar 19, 2016 2:10 PM CST
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It reminds me of knapweed
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Mar 19, 2016 2:52 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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JRsbugs said:Translated on google ..

https://translate.google.co.uk...


The translation won't come through on the link. I will have to go back to the page & do a Google translate myself. Thanks Janet!

Will have to check out the knapweed.

Have to run! Dinner calls.
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Mar 19, 2016 3:29 PM CST
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Mar 19, 2016 3:59 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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I have to recant on it being Diplotaxis due to the missing odor of mustard greens or the like.

Thank you Janet. It's not any of those. The leaves just aren't right and the red stems are missing.

I might just have to wait for it to bloom or at least put up bloom stalks. And here I thought this one was going to be a piece of cake. Whistling
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Mar 19, 2016 4:12 PM CST
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Ann, could it possibly be Oriental Poppy? Are the leaves hairy at all? It also looks like not all of them have the red stems down at the bottom, or do they just not show up?

They do self-sow generously, and for years I was thinning them out, in my daughter's garden in Utah. Not all have pointy, ferny leaves either, some are rounded at the ends like your plant. You could dig one up and see if it has fleshy, white rhizomes under there . . ?
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Mar 19, 2016 4:33 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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dyzzypyxxy said:Ann, could it possibly be Oriental Poppy? Are the leaves hairy at all? It also looks like not all of them have the red stems down at the bottom, or do they just not show up?

They do self-sow generously, and for years I was thinning them out, in my daughter's garden in Utah. Not all have pointy, ferny leaves either, some are rounded at the ends like your plant. You could dig one up and see if it has fleshy, white rhizomes under there . . ?


They are hairy Elaine, both upper side of leaves as well as underside and the stems too. The very, very young ones do not have the red yet but it seems it's not long before they get the red. In my photos of the younger ones, the red just isn't showing.

One of the seeds in a mix was Papaver rhoeas. I think this could be a real possibility. This is why I really wish people would add close ups of leaves & stems in the database. It can be so helpful in IDing plants. It's not always just about the blooms. Sighing! I trust photos on our website better than the general internet.
I will see about digging one up. There are plenty out there.
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