Calif_Sue said:OK everyone, I need some input. Dave is working hard to get the details for this new ATP database.
As I stated in the Database planning forum that Juli and I are on, initially, as I understood it, Juli did not want a database that was a repeat of the AHS registration database but now I am thinking ahead of the search features, I hope Juli agrees with me, but I do believe that if we want this database to be truly useful, we need to add a few more daylily specific options. Things like scape height, bloom size, and daylily bloom season is always registered as Early, Mid-season and Late, with combinations of those like EM, MLa. A drop down check-off for these options would be great. On DG, the bloom size was always small, medium and large and actually having the option to check off the actual registered size would be good for folks searching for specific sizes, same thing with scape heights.
So plants like roses and daylilies will have plant specific options included so that if someone wants to do a search for something, say for instance, a dormant daylily, late season blooming with a red flower and a 28" scape, you can type that in. To make sure we have a database that rocks, Dave now asks:
"So, exactly what kinds of data do we want for daylilies?"
Any additional ideas beyond scape, bloom size, foliage type, bloom season? We are trying to make this easy so that anyone can add a new entry so the more drop-down menu check-of options, the better.
daylily said:Sue, I worried that someone would put in incorrect information. I knew I would not be able to check every entry against the AHS database or checklists to be sure they were correct. Since you have taken on the database - and Dave wants people to check the entries - I think it would be a good idea to have as much daylily specific info as we can.
We want this to be the BEST over all plant database there is --- and we want the daylily part of it to be the best one out there. Now is the time to make it happen!
I wish we could show everyone what it looks like - do you think Dave would allow more people "in" to the database forum to see the daylily database?
Calif_Sue said:I think anyone can be added just by saying so in the planning thread on the Site News forum.
My first wish is to have, this is exactly like DG, with a check off box for each:
Bloom Time:
Extra early (EE)
Early (E)
Early midseason (EM)
Midseason (M)
Late Midseason (MLa)
Late (La)
Very late (VLa)
Reblooming (Re)
The things that I think can be left out is hardiness zones, that is all relative to how someone plants and cares for a daylily so I hate to have a set in stone number that someone would be afraid to grow something based on not understanding their cold hardiness zone.. I feel the designations of EV, Semi-EV and Dormant would be sufficient.
Your thoughts?
daylily said:maybe carry it a bit further to
Rebloom
but also maybe add - because so many are working on this
Extended bloom
Instant rebloom
Bud Builder
Calif_Sue said:On DG it's listed as:
Blooming Habit:
Diurnal (diu.)
Nocturnal (noc.)
Extended (ext.)
and your other options. Instant rebloom, Bud Builder, can also be added to that.
Newyorkrita said:I don't really even have that info that you guys are looking for. I don't measure my scape heights or flower sizes. I really only pay attention to if it is somewhere in the middle of the season (and that could be EM, M or ML) or if it is late or extra late blooming. I do have lots of Instant Rebloom.
Betja said:Regarding the bloom time, will we able to check more than one box? I'm thinking of the ones listed as EML.
philljm said:What about additional information about plant habit? - I don't know what, but perhaps rust resistance, etc
Calif_Sue said:Jan, those are the type of things that can be added in a comments section because everyone's mileage may vary so it could very well depend on where you live. We'll be counting on everyone to pitch in with things like that, it is all very helpful!
lovemyhouse said:If it is fragrant? I help supply plants to an accessible garden that has a section for visually impaired, which is made up of fragrant plants. Be useful to have that search field.
Calif_Sue said:Yep, fragrant is already a check-off option for all plant entries.
sandnsea2 said:Bud count
Newyorkrita said:The problems with budcounts is that even if it has 40 buds when hybridized in Florida it will do really well to have 15-18 here.