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Apr 9, 2016 11:09 PM CST
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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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I know these are not a well liked rose for rose people but I was wondering why all the Big Box stores have every knockout except Sunny. I found some this week in a body bag but they had pots and pots of the red and pink ones. At least Sunny is fragrant.
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Apr 10, 2016 3:35 PM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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This rose person loves Sunny Knock Out. I have several of them.
I was pleased to see our box stores DO have Sunny this year!
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Apr 10, 2016 9:11 PM CST
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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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Thank you. I do not feel so alone now. Hilarious! I have a rose person that enjoy the knockout rose. I was excited when I found the bag ones now I can finish planning my patio pots.
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Apr 10, 2016 10:14 PM CST
Frisco, TX (Zone 8a)
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My Sunny is not near as sturdy as regular KNockout, pink or Home Run. It has never grown much in the two years I have had it, though I love the color.
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Apr 11, 2016 6:29 AM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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I agree with you. Sunny Knock Out is the only Knock Out I have managed to kill with my rather lax care practices.
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Apr 11, 2016 10:32 PM CST
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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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I wonder if you are too warm. My roses die over the winter. So I only have a few roses that are not Knockout, drift, fairy etc. Because I do not have time to put the work into covering them for he winter,

I saw one in my neighborhood that was 5' tall and 4' wide. I saw the gardener in the yard and asked her what it was and was surprised when she said it was a Sunny Knockout. When I see her again I am going to ask her how long she has had the plant and if she is feeding it something special. She has it planted in the middle of her yard on the side with only grass is in the rest of that area. I did not think it was possible for them to grow that tall. It is the perfect flowering bush for that area.
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Apr 12, 2016 7:14 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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Here's my Sunny Knock Outs, with a Crown Princess Margarita on the left. All unpruned, and you can see they are pretty vigorous! I'll cut them back this week. They are at 6-7' now. They are in a bed that gets no irrigation or fertilization, and they are with some huge grasses. They bloom all summer. They've been growing there for 5 or 6 years, but they reached 4' the first year. I'm in zone 6/7, outside of town, and my plants are exposed to tremendous wind.
Sunsprite died in that bed. Carefree Sunshine is in there, and it is growing well.
I kind of wonder what they would have done had I amended the soil or fertilized!
Hurray!
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Apr 12, 2016 8:49 AM CST
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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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WOW Cindi that is what the gardener's plant looked like too. I did not think they would grow that tall.

I am considering going back to Lowes and see if they still have any left and plant them where I was looking for more flowering bush. I have a couple of acres of land and I am trying to do more bushes and get rid of so much grass.
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Apr 12, 2016 11:10 AM CST
Name: Cindi
Wichita, Kansas (Zone 7a)
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That's what I've been doing here. I've also tried to plant more for the butterflies and bees. This bed has currant bushes, Tiger Eye sumac, a smoke tree, a chitalpa tree, heliopsis, helianthis, baptisia, aster, a yellow barberry, yellow tb iris, arundo donax 'Peppermint Stick' , a beautyberry, and several kinds of ornamental grass. The other side of this horseshoe is purple...with desert willow, Russian sage, caryopteris, lilac, amsonia, Nepeta, phlox, mums, echinacea, daylilies, viburnum, a purple hazelnut, and loads of daffodils and iris. It's all pretty xeric.
Some horrible wild onion or garlic got in there and I'm having a terrible time getting it out.
I've tried planting sunflowers but something eats them. Both these beds are best viewed from a distance!
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Apr 13, 2016 5:57 PM CST
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Name: aud/odd
Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
Garden Ideas: Level 1
That sounds beautiful Cindi. I have rooted a couple limbs from my purple smoke bush a couple different Sambucus, that I am going to use. If I can add some of these roses that do not need a bunch of care that will be a plus. I really want/need to get rid of some of this grass. I just want a lot of beautiful low maintenance gardens with garden path of grass. The front is enough grass the side and back is going to be gone.
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