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Apr 16, 2016 9:34 AM CST
Name: Danita
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The leaves are still too immature for me to say for certain, but I'm pretty sure that those are Poke Salad roots (Phytolacca americana.)
Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana)

I've dug up so many of them and older plants can produce huge roots! Hard work to remove! Grumbling

Poke Salad would love that moist soil and the seeds were likely brought in via bird poo when the birds were feasting on the Mulberry tree's fruit. Birds also like the berries on Poke Salad. Poke Salad is poisonous if eaten to humans, though.

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Apr 16, 2016 10:57 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
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I was going to suggest letting one grow - those aren't carrot leaves. My thought was burdock but Phytolacca americana - Pokeweed or poke salad - is also a possibility.

Just because its called poke salad doesn't mean you should eat it. Unless you know what you are doing, you will poison yourself

Let one grow - you will have an answer in a week or two.

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Apr 16, 2016 2:53 PM CST
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Danita said:The leaves are still too immature for me to say for certain, but I'm pretty sure that those are Poke Salad roots (Phytolacca americana.)
Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana)

I've dug up so many of them and older plants can produce huge roots! Hard work to remove! Grumbling

Poke Salad would love that moist soil and the seeds were likely brought in via bird poo when the birds were feasting on the Mulberry tree's fruit. Birds also like the berries on Poke Salad. Poke Salad is poisonous if eaten to humans, though.

Smiling


It does look like that. I'm thinking you're right about it. So, it's gonna be more than one weekend's worth of work for me.

Thank you. :)

DaisyI said:I was going to suggest letting one grow - those aren't carrot leaves. My thought was burdock but Phytolacca americana - Pokeweed or poke salad - is also a possibility.

Just because its called poke salad doesn't mean you should eat it. Unless you know what you are doing, you will poison yourself

Let one grow - you will have an answer in a week or two.

Daisy

I'll let one grow to see. I'll leave the one in the cut mulberry there...I couldn't dig it out anyways.

Thank you both very much. I'm just glad it didn't turn out to be hemlock or something. (could that be a possibility?) Before I got any responses this morning, I was looking up hemlock roots. It looks similar, but not too much. Colors are different.
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Apr 16, 2016 3:14 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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Did you say there had been a Mulberry tree in the area in the past? Perhaps some of what you are seeing are Mulberry roots? There's a photo here for comparison: http://www.bing.com/images/sea...
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Apr 16, 2016 4:04 PM CST
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plantladylin said:Did you say there had been a Mulberry tree in the area in the past? Perhaps some of what you are seeing are Mulberry roots? There's a photo here for comparison: http://www.bing.com/images/sea...


Yeah, it was. It had gotten about 5-6 feet tall I think and with a pretty spread of leaves and branches before it was cut down. The roots in that photo you linked, does look like "carrots" to me. You know what, there's another Mulberry tree growing up in the fig tree. Whenever I get around to removing it, I will check those roots as well. I noticed that mulberry in the fig tree weeks ago, it's pretty thin right now. I think I'll definitely get to it before the summer heat picks up.
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Apr 16, 2016 4:47 PM CST
Name: greene
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Pokeweed is a difinite possibility. Also Rumex can have carrot-like roots. Wish we could see the foliage that goes with the roots.
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Apr 16, 2016 5:14 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Phytolacca americana (pokeweed) isn't poke "salad" but poke "sallet."

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Apr 16, 2016 5:25 PM CST
Name: nell mcguire
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my mulberry trees have orange roots.if i dig one up or cut one down another one will sprout from the orange roots. Nell
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Apr 16, 2016 7:15 PM CST
Name: Danita
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@purpleinopp
Both Poke Salad and Poke Sallet, as well as many other monikers, are common names for Phytolacca americana.

That's why scientific names are so important! Smiling

I'm pretty sure that "salad" and "sallet" are, basically, two different spelling variations of the same word anyway (unless you are speaking of medieval armor, of course.)
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Apr 16, 2016 7:19 PM CST
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I think it is the poke weed thing too. It gets really tall and has big stalks.
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Apr 17, 2016 6:39 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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I think "Sallet" is just a southern regional dialect. Green Grin!
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Apr 17, 2016 6:41 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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If the plant in question does turn out to be Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana) it would be great to have a few database photos showing the roots!
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Apr 17, 2016 7:04 AM CST
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I'd guess the "salad" spelling probably came about from passing along spoken info, without seeing the word in print, and some confusion on the part of a song writer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
http://www.southernfoodways.or...
http://www.urbandictionary.com...
This lady has written a lovely and amusing article:
http://southernspaces.org/2011...
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Salad conjures automatic assumptions of a cold dish with some raw ingredients, which is unnecessarily dangerous:
Incidentally, you will hear poke weed called โ€œpoke salletโ€ which sounds like โ€œsalad.โ€ That โ€œsalletโ€ and โ€œsaladโ€ sound the same today has been the cause of a few poisonings because people did not cook the poke weed before eating it. Never eat poke weed raw. NEVER.
http://www.eattheweeds.com/can...
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Apr 17, 2016 9:59 AM CST
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I wouldn't recognize a poke weed if I tripped over one -- but if they have roots like that, I'm really glad they don't grow up here!
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Apr 17, 2016 10:36 AM CST
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@Weedwhacker Sandy, are you sure it doesn't grow in Michigan? Green Grin!

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Apr 17, 2016 12:11 PM CST
Name: greene
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Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana) refers to the plant itself.
Poke sallet refers to the cooked leaves and/or cooked young tips.
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Apr 17, 2016 1:28 PM CST
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plantladylin said:@Weedwhacker Sandy, are you sure it doesn't grow in Michigan? Green Grin!

http://www.michiganflora.net/s...
http://www.pestid.msu.edu/weed...



Truthfully, I didn't know it grew anywhere in Michigan... but apparently it hasn't made it to the UP, at any rate Smiling
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Apr 17, 2016 2:00 PM CST
Name: Danita
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You have to go back pretty far to find a dictionary that even acknowledges the word "sallet" but see the definitions from 'The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia' (1889-91.) "Salad" should display on the first page shown (5309.) Scroll down for "sallet" on page 5313. You'll probably need to use the zoom feature (top, left) to read the text.

https://books.google.com/books...

It appears that the "sallet" spelling just fell out of use in favor of "salad" over time in most places but remained in more isolated communities like parts of the southeastern United States.
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Apr 17, 2016 2:05 PM CST
Name: Danita
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Sandy, be thankful! Smiling It is kind-of a pretty plant but such a reseeding thug and those established taproots are long, huge and sooo hard to dig. Angry
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Apr 17, 2016 5:31 PM CST
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I have a weeping mulberry and the roots look just like those. I also have poke berry. It is raining now but I will get some pics when it stops.

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