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Junker1004
Apr 26, 2016 9:06 AM CST
Saw this growing while walking home. Looks like a type of cannabis, but not sure. Any ideas? Thanks :)
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Name: Daisy
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DaisyI
Apr 26, 2016 9:58 AM CST
Welcome! to NGA!

Can you tell us where you saw it (city, state)? Because that looks like quite a find and someone is going to wish it had sprung up in their neighborhood (including me). It looks like a Japanese Maple called a Moon Maple. If you managed to find one for sale, it would cost quite a bit. Look around for the adult trees (trees because it takes two) in someones front yard.

Its surprising the number of people who mistake them for marijuana plants but you would be disappointed if you smoked it. I have Japanese maples, including Moon Maples, and more than one person has asked why I'm growing my 'pot' on the front porch. Smiling

The other two plants are Lupins.

Daisy


Junker1004
Apr 26, 2016 10:41 AM CST
Hi Daisy,

Thanks for the reply! This is actually in Chicago, IL. It looks like whatver adult tree was there previously has been cut down. These must be from seeds that randomly took root. I am guessing the cut-down trees must have been the parents because there doesn't appear to be any maples around. I will take another look after work Smiling maybe I should rescue it before someone thinks it's marijuana and destroys or smokes it haha nodding would make a nice addition to my yuka plant in my home! Would you just cut a branch or the stem base in order to propagate it? I don't want to injure it in transport!
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JRsbugs
Apr 26, 2016 11:03 AM CST
I don't think a Moon Maple has leaves cut to the centre?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Moon+Maple&source=lnms&tbm...

This appears to have a regular 7 leaflets but I see a small leaf has 5.

The form is similar to Aesculus but the stems are too thick.

I think the smaller plants are a younger version of the larger one.

Rodgersia aesculifolia looks much like it, but the leaves don't form a full circle. The leaves don't look to have fully opened so they might 'round up'.

http://plants.chaletnursery.com/12120004/Plant/5590/Chestnut...

https://namethatplant.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/watermark_...

I would like to see the leaves when the are fully open.

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sooby
Apr 26, 2016 12:11 PM CST
I thought Aesculus too, Janet, because it reminded me of horse chestnut. But could it be red buckeye or ohio buckeye?

Red Buckeye
http://whereplantsrule.blogspot.ca/2011/03/red-buckeye.html


Ohio Buckeye
http://www.plantplaces.com/perl/viewplantdetails.pl?filter=p...

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JRsbugs
Apr 26, 2016 12:33 PM CST
The stems on those two do look thick enough Sue!

The one problem is they both are showing all leaves with 5 leaflets, others do have 7 though and those two might vary as some do.

http://cfaes.osu.edu/news/articles/ohio-state-fans-7-things-...

http://www.uky.edu/hort/Red-Buckeye

I was wondering if the plants were growing off the roots of the tree cut down, or the seeds dropped from it.

Aesculus with 5-7 leaflets ..

http://www.deepdale-trees.co.uk/trees/2013/05-Aesculus-hippo...

62. Buckeyes (Aesculus species) LEAVES: Opposite, palmately compound (the leaflets arranged like spreading fingers), native buckeyes have 5 leaflets, Horsechestnut has 7, leaves to 15" long, margins toothed.


http://www.slideshare.net/mrjones_science/pa-common-trees

I have a Horse Chestnut tree, it doesn't resemble that.


Junker1004
Apr 26, 2016 2:50 PM CST
They seem to be growing near the stump. If these photos help.

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froggardener
Apr 26, 2016 2:54 PM CST
I thought rodgersia aesculifolia
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DaisyI
Apr 26, 2016 6:42 PM CST
I answered that question this morning on my tablet and then got in my car drove 200 miles home. Lots of time to think ....I started wondering if that was Aesculus. For some reason, in my early morning sleep depraved pre-coffee state of mind, I thought that was a street grate, not a tree ring. Completely spaced the tree stump. Sorry Junker but I have to retract my first ID. Sad No Moon Maple.

My mother was born in Chicago - there used to be a lot of Chestnut trees there. Just the common edible Horse Chestnuts. 5 - 7 serrated leaflets coming off a central stem.

Daisy

Junker1004
Apr 27, 2016 6:44 PM CST
It looks close, but not sure it's that. Are we sure it's not cannabis?
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JRsbugs
Apr 27, 2016 6:53 PM CST
I took photos of the newly opening leaves on my Horse Chestnut tree today, they are pretty much like yours. It's a huge tree.

I found a seedling which has leaves about 2 inches long, they look the same but smaller. The smaller plant in your pic doesn't have the drooping leaves like a seedling has when opening, they might have come from the roots.

It's late here, tomorrow if I download my photos I'll post some pics.
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DaisyI
Apr 27, 2016 10:34 PM CST
No, still not Cannabis (said the girl from California and the '60's)
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kniphofia
Apr 27, 2016 10:36 PM CST
Absolutely not cannabis. The horse chestnuts here are coming into leaf and I'm sure that's what you have. I'd say it's regrowth from that stump.
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JRsbugs
Apr 28, 2016 6:20 AM CST
Here's my Horse Chestnut leaves just opening ..

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The seedling which obviously escaped my attention last year, the leaves are around 2" long at this stage so you can see how the stem looks quite thick in a photo.

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Junker1004
May 3, 2016 12:16 PM CST
Hmm looks similar but not the same. Here's an updated photo.
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JRsbugs
May 3, 2016 12:28 PM CST
Now that I can see the stems properly, they do look like Rodgersia aesculifolia! I'm not so confident about the leaves, they need to fully mature. I don't know what else it could be.

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JRsbugs
May 3, 2016 12:33 PM CST
It could be Rodgersia pinnata ..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rodgersia+stems&biw=1027&b...
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JRsbugs
May 3, 2016 12:38 PM CST
I have Rodgersia pinnata but it's very slow to grow ..

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I think mine is 'Superba'

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/rodgersia-pinnata-superba

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Junker1004
May 3, 2016 12:54 PM CST
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Here's some more detail with more growth and not just lower leaves. The top leaves look different than the bottom ones.
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JRsbugs
May 3, 2016 1:16 PM CST
The top leaves have opened more, the other larger ones have still got their edges curled under.

The other lower leaves are smaller from newly shooted growths.

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