needrain said: Here is the 1st bloom ever from a seedling. I don't think there's too much hope, but it's got 14 more chances to improve. It may improve, but I think it has too far to go. Only one good petal? A 'Tusk' bloom was doing some of the same thing today, so it might be weather related. We got really cool at night this week. The pod was from 'Wild Horses'. Odds are good that the pollen came via 'French Twist' because it mostly was my 'go to' for pollen on tetraploid blooms, but 'Serge Rigaud' and 'Primal Scream' were also used. I think I ended up with about half a dozen pods which I also didn't keep separate. Not to mention there were hundreds of little sweat bees grabbing pollen and might have been working with a different agenda than mine. 'WH' was not one I tried to keep up with except for recording what pollen I used every day. I used paper clips and bread ties on other crosses, but even on some of those, the marker got off the pods occasionally - squirrels, birds, wind, or just not getting them attached well enough - I don't know. It's fun to do and I have really low expectations anyway.