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May 24, 2012 1:37 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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Cool pic, Jonna. Well, not for the rail roads, but...
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Jun 2, 2012 12:03 PM CST

Success Hurray!
Finally there is new growth on my dracaena. Hurray!
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Jun 3, 2012 12:13 PM CST
Name: 'CareBear'

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Hurray!
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Jun 6, 2012 11:06 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Happy for you dogpack! Big Grin
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Aug 17, 2012 3:28 PM CST

The dracaena is still alive and forming leaves. Finally after hacking the thing into pieces the bottom portion which spent the longest amount of time int soil seems to be a survivor. I'm thrilled. Not bad for a plant piece which someone threw into the trash. :-)

My lucky bamboo seems to be thriving also.

My clivia is struggling, so I'll have to figure out what to do. I posted info on the clivia thread which I hope I can find again.

I hope everyone is doing well. Plants and people of course.
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Nov 14, 2012 11:41 AM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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Dracaena Janet Craig compacta

I belong to a Hobby GH Assoc and I picked it up off one of their raffle tables in July. The member that brought it said it was a rescue plant in pretty bad shape when she brought it in. DH Ric picked it up because he liked the pot that it was in. I tucked it into a shady spot in the yard for the summer and gave it a bit of TLC. I brought it into the house when it started to get frost warnings. It is really looking good right now. Thumb of 2012-11-14/HollyAnnS/a267af
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Nov 14, 2012 12:33 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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Hey, Holly!

It does look good, much better than my variegated one - forget the name; it's similar to yours but lime green, dark green and white striped, fairly popular over the last year or two. Think I'm not good enough about watering it.
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Nov 21, 2012 9:21 AM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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Sheryl, Your old one might have been a Warneckii. I used two of them in pot combos last year. Very pretty. Just didn't have the room to over winter them last year.
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Sep 8, 2013 11:05 AM CST
Name: Peggy
Youngstown, Ohio (Zone 6a)
Normal is overrated
My Dracaena doesn't look anything like y'all! Of course it's still small enough to be a table top plant, but still...


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Sep 8, 2013 7:12 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Welcome to ATP Peggy! Welcome!

That's a lovely dracaena you have Lovey dubby ..I searched and it is called Dracaena surculosa or Gold Dust Dracaena.
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Sep 9, 2013 5:19 AM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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Very pretty, there are quite a few different Dracaena. Not only colors put leaf shape, too. I am quite often surprised when looking a new pretty plant and seeing it is a Dracaena.
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Sep 10, 2013 8:25 AM CST
Name: Peggy
Youngstown, Ohio (Zone 6a)
Normal is overrated
Thank you Tarev and Holly. Big Grin
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Oct 14, 2013 4:00 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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That's it - I'm giving away my Dracenas. I just can't keep this darn things from getting brown at the tips, and it really stands out against the variegation.
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Dec 10, 2013 2:31 PM CST
Name: Angela
(Zone 7b)
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one of our cats had a party on my dracaena it was so full and beautiful now it's chopped and I think stunned no new growth since it happened Grumbling
Have to keep it in a hanging basket because this was not the first incident just the worst.




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Dec 20, 2013 11:31 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo) (Zone 10b)
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I've been reading thru the posts...and have a thought: tropicals typically despise chemicals in municipal water supply. Especially fluoride. That might explain the browning at the tips.... Try letting your water stand in an open container for about 24-48 hours before using it... It might help.
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Dec 20, 2013 12:22 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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Or rain water/ melted snow?
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Dec 20, 2013 3:11 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Dracaenas are especially sensitive to fluoride, which doesn't evaporate.
http://extension.psu.edu/pests...
Specific species are mentioned in the above link, but I have 7 or 8 diff Dracs and the cause/resulting symptoms seem universal to me.

Everyone should know, at least 95% of pics that exist of perfect Dracs in pots were just trimmed just before the pic was taken. It's THAT difficult to keep the leaves all perfect, and bottom line, with the exception of a very few of the species/cultivars, there is no such thing as an old, woody Drac with perfect leaves from the tall tip to the soil surface. Like a palm tree with a pouf of foliage at the top, that's the normal appearance of most Dracs. The yellow/brown tip is the first sign a leaf has been designated for discard. You can start chasing the brown back with trimming, or take them off cleanly, pulling gently in a sideways direction, so as to peel the leaf from around the stem/trunk. Then it looks fine again, just like the pics, right? As long as new leaves are forming as fast as or faster than old ones are being discarded, it's considered to be doing just fine.

No way I'm buying water for plants either, I'd go broke. Distilled is very inexpensive, convenient if folks just have a few plants. Melted clean snow is equivalent to rain but also more effort than I'm into (when I lived in a place where there was snow, not an option here.) If you have a dehumidifier, the water it catches is free of minerals or tap water chemicals, as would be the runoff from an A/C during the summer. It's possible to catch rain all year here, but I use tap water sometimes too, convenience, and sometimes it doesn't rain for a while. Letting tap sit, to come to room temp, is good but won't help get rid of the chemicals like fluoride that can make plants ill if it builds up in the pot. As long as water doesn't sit in a drip tray, that build-up should be something you can avoid by using non-tap water when possible. An occasional or seasonal use of tap should be fine like that, what I do.

Sheryl, if you're at the point of getting rid, I wonder if it's been a while since repotting? If that seems like more effort than they're worth to you at this point, why not try putting in the ground? You've got the dryness to make it work if it can be done with what I'm assuming is just occasional light frost, 9B? My Mom's corn plant has been outside permanently for a few years. Last fall/winter, I went to move it to the garage for her but it was more than firmly rooted in the ground through the pot. Already more frost & lower temps than all last winter but her plant looks in no danger of death. Who knows if it can survive if we get a 9-degree night like a few years ago. I think it would come back from the roots if it was devastated completely above ground. If such is predicted, I'll pile some leaves around it for her. That's helped me cheat a lot of stuff before, though a pile of leaves might not be such a cavalier, casually available thing in AZ.
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Dec 26, 2013 7:08 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
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Eh - I went ahead and trashed one of them, gave the other away. Never thought of planting it outside - if I find myself with one ever again, I will try that!

We have well water, but as is typical in the SW, it is very alkaline, so that might have been part of the problem. Lots of calcium salts, too. I just have too many plants to let them look awful - too high maint. in this particular case. I pay more attention to my A. violets and hoyas.
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Dec 27, 2013 9:21 AM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
Opp, AL @--`--,----- 🌹 (Zone 8b)
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Well, it's all in the eye of the beholder, as we know. And in decades of having diff Dracs around, only 1 has bloomed once. If I wasn't such a hoverer about inspecting plants often, I would have missed this short-lived event of what most would call an "inconspicuous" flower. On a larger specimen, a multitude of blooms would be noticeable, but one little clump of 4 flowers on one little patch of D. surculosa hiding under a much taller Ti plant, it was a real snooze as far as a flower show goes. (Supposed to be fragrant, but probably just not enough there to make a scent.) So AV's have a severe advantage in that way.

The water (Sheryl's) does sound like stuff Dracs wouldn't like. Until I got into investigating plant water, it never occurred to me that ground water has a LOT of stuff in it, no matter where it comes from, that is not in rain water. Once it hits the ground, it picks up minerals & salts, like you mentioned. Catching rain water is the only way to give plants pure water that they would get in nature - from rain. Not all plants are bothered by tap or ground water, but the only way to find out is to start watering. In a desert, catching rain water is probably an occasional novelty, not a plan on which one could rely without a more sophisticated holding system than what I have (buckets under the eave of the carport, which I dump occasionally if mosquitoes are going to mature before I can use it all.) In a place where catching rain would be so much more difficult, it's understandable that certain plants would not be able to do well.

Aside from being sensitive to stuff in water, Dracs are really tough plants.

Holly, your plant is blooming - or was 6 weeks ago! Does it have a fragrance?
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Dec 28, 2013 11:21 AM CST
Name: Holly
South Central Pa
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That was last Nov, 2012. It sure did surprise me I had never seen one bloom.
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