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May 18, 2016 4:21 PM CST
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Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
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I attached photos.
Question #1 Why would one of my Columbines get some leaves that are turning a very dark brown? Any ideas?
Question #2 Early spring I planted some Four O Clock seeds and from what I see on the internet this looks like the leaves, and these
things growing are where I planted them, maybe weeds or actually the four o clocks? Any ideas?
Thanks!
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May 18, 2016 6:49 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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Hi Linda -- my columbine leaves sometimes turn dark like that too, although I have no idea why.

The plant in the 2nd photo looks more like some kind of vine to me than a 4 o'clock; maybe a wild morning glory or bindweed?
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May 18, 2016 7:14 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Nebraska Hummingbirder Houseplants Critters Allowed Container Gardener
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1
Weedwhacker said:Hi Linda -- my columbine leaves sometimes turn dark like that too, although I have no idea why.

The plant in the 2nd photo looks more like some kind of vine to me than a 4 o'clock; maybe a wild morning glory or bindweed?


Thanks, I appreciate your responses. I removed the dark leaves from the Columbine thinking maybe it was a diseased part. Around the base of all of them
I keep putting down dichotomous earth to hopefully keep out the pests that create the white lines from inside the leaves. And it may very well be weeds and not
Four O Clocks, hopefully I get some Four O Clocks because I heard they are very very easy to grow.
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May 18, 2016 9:20 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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The white lines in the leaves are from leaf miners... not sure the DE will be of any help with them, but can't hurt.

I struggled for years trying to get 4 o'clock seeds to sprout, until I got some from a swap that grew just fine; I don't know what the heck the commercial seed companies are selling, but I don't think it's very fresh seed!
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May 19, 2016 3:31 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Linda
Omaha, N.E (Zone 5b)
Always room to plant one more!
Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Nebraska Hummingbirder Houseplants Critters Allowed Container Gardener
Cat Lover Butterflies Bookworm Birds Garden Ideas: Level 1
Weedwhacker said:The white lines in the leaves are from leaf miners... not sure the DE will be of any help with them, but can't hurt.

I struggled for years trying to get 4 o'clock seeds to sprout, until I got some from a swap that grew just fine; I don't know what the heck the commercial seed companies are selling, but I don't think it's very fresh seed!


I read online if I put the D. Earth on the dirt that when the leafminers emerge it will dry them out, same with grubs.
As far as the Four O Clocks I got seeds of different colors from my sister in law, they were picked off her plants.
Guess time will tell!
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May 19, 2016 5:53 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
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4 0'clocks aren't vining and that looks a lot like bindweed to me. It's almost impossible to get rid of without using chemicals. I've been fighting it for years and we finally resorted to tordon on them.
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