'Wild Horses' has done very well for me. My daylilies are grown in containers. This will be the 3rd bloom season for it. I received it as a six fan clump in the fall and the next spring all six fans had scapes with blooms. It has not increased as fast as some I'm growing, but well enough. Here's a photo of it on 05/21/16 showing the scapes. On that date the scapes measured between 27" and 34" in height. It's closer to bloom today, and I don't think they'll ever quite reach the registered height. It never did before either, so it's about the same this year. The blooms are well above the foliage, so I'm fine with the height.


It has set pods and this seedling from it is blooming today. I'll probably keep it another year and see how it does. After an awful 1st bloom, it has been like this since then. Very consistent and showy in its setting and so far, really weatherproof against wind and rain.

Are you sure that image is Wild Horses Donald??? The color does not look like the others that were posted.

Hemlady said:Are you sure that image is Wild Horses Donald??? The color does not look like the others that were posted.

The second image is definitely not Wild Horses. It's a seedling from Wild Horses. The first image is Wild Horses which has not opened any blooms yet.

Oh ok, reminds me of Galaxy Explosion except I see some veining in your seedling, which I really like.

I thought of Galaxy Explosion too, though the blooms look larger and a bit more re-curved and rounded.

I like your seedling, Donald!!!

My Wild Horses came from Morningstar Daylily and was planted a little over 3 weeks ago, yesterday I checked and saw two tiny scapes, it is the first one of my Morningstar's order that has scapes, I am super excited... The plant itself are on the small side compare to the rest of the daylilies that I got from Morningstar and Oakhill.

Hemlady said:Oh ok, reminds me of Galaxy Explosion except I see some veining in your seedling, which I really like.

I can see that. The colors are mindful of 'Galaxy Explosion', but the effect is different. It actually reminds me more of the parent 'Wild Horses' due to the face. Here's a photo taken from a distance away which seems better to me on how the bloom is presented. It has a strong presentation as does 'Wild Horses'.

The plant has not done well and last year didn't bloom well but I've used it's pollen on seedlings which I suppose means the seedlings may be tets although they were also supposedly dips, Ed Murray and Orchid Corsage altho some were Ed Murray X Saratoga Pinwheel, who knows??? I still need to plant the seed!
Crossed it with this which grows 58 inches tall but refuses to go above five feet--just to frustrate me , I think!

Weedy seedy - I am curious to know what climate zone you live in?

I think, according to the map, I,m in 5b; I live about thirty five to forty miles South of Lake Ontario and Winters vary from snow up to your ears to a relatively lack of snow cover as was this year. I prefer snow cover as it seems to protect plants--they suffer from drying winds and being heaved out of the ground. We had a late snow this year after growth had started and daylilies and iris looked awful for a while but seem to have recovered. There was damage and you can still see it in iris leaves but the daylilies now look fine. I think the only daylily I lost in the past was Prairie Blue Eyes. It bit the dust the first winter. WH was good for several years, but seems to be going down hill--but then I have been going down hill too and the weeds sometimes hide the house. The back, North beds I refer to as Eden after the fall anyway as it's all thorns, thistles, weeds, poison ivy, toads, garter and milk snakes, infested with ticks, mice,moles, shrews, rabbits, chipmunks and squirrels and the deer paw the snow away and eat what's left.But I am having a fun Spring with a decade or more of daylily seedlings developing, some into huge clumps. I have a lot of early species daylilies and crosses of and I hope for more colors. I may yet get some WH X Ed Murray seedlings seeds in the ground tho I may have to take pain meds to do it.
This red-Ed Murray X Orchid Corsage took WH pollen--tet?????






cors

Thanks for the info about your zone and variable Winters. I was trying to determine if zone had anything to do with the decline in your WH daylilies. You may be right though, that the competition with the weeds might be part of the issue.

Your seedling blooms are lovely. I am suspecting that WH is a dip and has the tet conversion now available, which would explain the confusion about which ploidy a given WH plant is.

beckygardener said:
Your seedling blooms are lovely. I am suspecting that WH is a dip and has the tet conversion now available, which would explain the confusion about which ploidy a given WH plant is.

'Wild Horses' is registered as a tetraploid. All the pods I've had on it were using tet pollen. Do converted plants get registered as tetraploid if they are converted before registration and introduction? I didn't think conversion was always complete and sometimes is unstable, so it seems if it had been converted that should be noted somewhere in the registration - preferably in the ploidy block.

Sounds like a question for Dan Trimmer.

Wild Horses came through today with 7 flowers, the most it has ever had at one time. This is the entire plant.

beckygardener said:
Your seedling blooms are lovely. I am suspecting that WH is a dip and has the tet conversion now available, which would explain the confusion about which ploidy a given WH plant is.

needrain said:
'Wild Horses' is registered as a tetraploid. All the pods I've had on it were using tet pollen. Do converted plants get registered as tetraploid if they are converted before registration and introduction? I didn't think conversion was always complete and sometimes is unstable, so it seems if it had been converted that should be noted somewhere in the registration - preferably in the ploidy block.

beckygardener said:Sounds like a question for Dan Trimmer.

Sorry, I'm not Dan Trimmer

Wild Horses is a tetraploid, not a conversion. WH is from the cross of Moonlit Masquerade x Tet. Cleopatra. Cleopatra is a diploid, the tet conversion of Cleopatra was crossed with the tetraploid Moonlit Masquerade. There are three siblings from this cross registered by Dan Trimmer - Wild Horses (Trimmer 1999), Egyptian Queen (Trimmer 2000) and Volusian Spider (Trimmer 2001).

No, tet conversions do not get registered. The plant would be registered as a diploid, a conversion would be reflected when searching the parentage of any child plant(s). In the parentage the conversion is listed as Tet. followed by the diploids registered name. You may find a Tet. conversion noted in catalog descriptions or sale listings as well.

Thanks, Char .... for explaining the tet conversion issue.

Thank you @beckygardener for the acorns, what a wonderful and sweet surprise !!!

My Wild Horses has Bloomed

I have 3 seedlings blooming today from Wild Horses pollen! Two are the first blooms ever, and the other one is on the second bloom. It's an exciting day here!

Wild Horse was the very first one of my Daylily order that bloom this Spring...I am very impressed that Wild Horse FFE look just like the photos and just like I imagined it would be... I think it has total of 12 blooms in 2 scapes, the only different is the height, my Wild Horse is on the short side, probably because its brand new...