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Team Lawn or Team No Lawn

By Trish
September 25, 2011

Is your garden taking over your lawn, or are you staunchly keeping yours? Join me for this week's Which Team? article!

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Sep 24, 2011 8:14 PM CST
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
The subject line pretty much says it all. We got rid of all the grass 4 or 5 years ago & have never looked back. Everything is beautiful now. All the time. Don't own a mower, weed eater, or edger anymore. Xeriscape to the max. No sprinkler system either. No pesticides, no fungicides.
Yet people stop & gasp with awe at our yard. Flowers everywhere. Groundcovers you can walk on & the dog can lay on.
I don't miss a lawn one tiny bit. Best thing we ever did. Now we get to enjoy the yard instead of just work on it.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 24, 2011 9:04 PM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
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i remember what grass used to look like!!!-then i started growing and breeding liliums,.,.all of a sudden there were hundreds of pots and white poly boxes where the lawn used to be,.,. Thumbs up
lily freaks are not geeks!
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Sep 24, 2011 10:18 PM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder
Lawn? I've got a few square feet of Buffalo Grass in one place...might not qualify as a lawn. Hmm...the Brits play games on those emerald green manicured expanses of lawn, don't they? Well, if I should ever lose my marbles and want to play lawn games, I might have to go get some Astroturf, because this area is virtually a desert now!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Sep 25, 2011 3:26 AM CST
Name: Anthony Weeding
Rosetta,Tasmania,Australia (Zone 7b)
idont havemuch-but ihave everything
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Australia Lilies Seed Starter Bulbs
Plant and/or Seed Trader Hellebores Birds Seller of Garden Stuff Garden Art Cat Lover
lost my marbles years ago,.,. Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! - but i'll still just grow lilies
lily freaks are not geeks!
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Sep 25, 2011 4:31 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
I have a six foot strip by the road to 'pretend' we still have grass but the rest of my yard is grass-free!
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Sep 25, 2011 5:48 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Hurray! Hurray!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 25, 2011 6:34 AM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
Hi Everybody!! Let us talk native.
Native Plants and Wildflowers Organic Gardener Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Butterflies Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Birds Cat Lover
We converted our front yard from grass to Texas native plants, and it looks beautiful. We still have some grass in the back yard, we shall see how that goes. Smiling
Wildflowers are the Smiles of Nature.
Gardening with Texas Native Plants and Wildflowers.
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Sep 25, 2011 7:54 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Ann, what ground covers do you grow?
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Sep 25, 2011 8:22 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
This is down at our house in zone 10 fl. & I may leave some things off but here goes:
Spathoglottis plicata, daylilys, liriope, mondo grass, neomarica longifolia (yellow walking iris), Stachytarpheta jamaiansis (NATIVE blue porterweed) Anthericum saundersiae (lily grass), Epidendrum fulgens (ground orchid), Parson's juniper, Tradescantia pallida (Purple heart), Russelia equisetiformis (firecracker plant), Zephyranthes (rain lily), Helianthus debilis (beach sunflower), Muhlygrass (which I will never plant again), other ornamental grasses, Dietes irioides, gazanias (which grow year round there), Aptenia cordifoila (baby sun rose), Bulbine frutescens, Cuphea hyssopifolia (mexican heather), Dietes bicolor, Euphorbia tithymaloides, Juniperus procumbens "nana", Pilea microphylla, Tulbaghia violancea.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 25, 2011 8:54 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Great diversity, Ann. I HATEHATEHATEHATE St. Augustine. Angry Grass should be GREEN, soft, narrow-bladed, and fire-ant and prickly-sticker free!!!! ARGGG. But I'm from the north and it actually rains enough there to HAVE the soft green stuff...sigh... Rolling on the floor laughing Do plan keep a small area of grass as I slowly eliminate what is there, at least in front, and replace with perennial and annual beds. Eventually want to try Buffalo or Zoysia grass instead. If I can get rid of the other nasty stuff, that is. Hilarious! Hilarious!
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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Sep 25, 2011 9:02 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
That's the hard part... getting rid of the other nasty stuff.
Here, where we bought property there is pasture grass & 5 ac. so there's little chance I can do away with it all. But I'm not going to water the pasture grass. It's gotta survive on it's own or it dies! Pasture grass survives. But my biggest plan is to turn most of the pasture (meadow) areas into wildflower meadows. A little at the time.
I will have less "garden" here. The property itself is it's own garden. Of course, around the house I will have my favorites but they will be chosen very carefully & judiciously.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 25, 2011 11:08 AM CST
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Name: Trish
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Region: Texas Roses Herbs Vegetable Grower
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Debra- I hate St. Augustine too- BLAH! It was one of my first huge complaints when we moved from East TN to Dallas- I just couldn't stand the grass.

I'm so excited for those of you who have no lawn!! You'll be getting tree-mails from me for the Garden Tour Lovey dubby
NGA COO, Wife, Mom, and do-er of many fun things.
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Sep 25, 2011 9:27 PM CST
Name: Renée
Northern KY
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Kentucky Cat Lover Dog Lover Sempervivums
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Just woods here. Grass is a weed that gets ripped out by the roots when it shows up in our gravel driveway, lol!
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Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM CST
Name: Charlene Houseman
Lehigh Acres, Fl 33971 (Zone 9b)
Newly transplanted fr Cen TX
Birds Seller of Garden Stuff Vegetable Grower Region: United States of America Tropicals Plant and/or Seed Trader
Roses Purslane Permaculture Hummingbirder Garden Art Region: Florida
I am working to replace all the lawn with plants native to Fl (which are also mostly TX natives Josephine). I am putting mulch everywhere else saving the same little strip near the road about 6' wide as Hetty has done. I love it!

I also have plenty of none natives growing around also, but I try to stay with drought tolerant plants. I also try to use very little fertilizer and only organic pest control.

I will soon have my FL license and will be officially a nursery here.
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Sep 26, 2011 11:18 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro (Zone 5a)
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Salvias Garden Procrastinator Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Xeriscape Region: Colorado Roses Cat Lover The WITWIT Badge
Heavily, staunchly Team No Friggin' Lawn! No way in heck!! NO NO NO. Grass requires too much work, too much water, cutting/weeding/trimming/reseeding and looks boring after you see yard after yard after yard of the same thing. BLEH. I'm 100% Team Roses. My property (I live on a city lot) is pie-shaped as I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac & so my front yard is quite small & narrow.. I think it's like 15' at the narrowest & .. 22? at the widest in the front yard. After trying to grow grass for 2 years, I said to heck w/it and ripped all the sod out - come to find out why I can't grow sod is because 1) I'd have to have the entire front yard tilled professionally as it's mostly clay for the first foot down & then sand under that, 2) the grass roots never ever got deeper than sod-thickness due to overwatering, but if you don't water, it croaks, 3) I have some kind of lawn fungus that's quite nasty & kills the grass quickly & 4) I also have grubs. So out it all went! In the front yard now is .. uh.. need to count.. uh...... I dunno. 75-90? roses? I'll have to make an accurate count one of these days. I put down about 6-10" of mulch on top of the weedblock fabric (the grey stuff from Costco) and that keeps the roses from (mostly) dying in the winter (I'm zone 5-4, and most of my roses are zone 6-7). The back yard is quite wide, about 177' wide, and about a 3rd of that is more roses (probably about.. oh.. er.. hmm.. 90? 120? roses and mulch, along with spirea, butterfly bushes, and tons & tons of bluebeards! I have a small section, about 60' wide and.. 22?' ft deep is my "dog area" where it's primarily weeds & sand.. nothing can grow there due to 2 pain-in-the-butt dogs digging, tearing things up, etc, and then another small section that's... 50?ft wide & .. 17?ft deep that's ... yup, you guessed it, more roses. Probably only about 30-40 roses in that small section. I'm hoping that next year (2012) everything will look more like roses rather than little spindlies everywhere.. then that'll be pictures worth looking at! But grass? No, that's for golf-courses and cemeteries.
Roses are one of my passions! Just opened, my Etsy shop (to fund my rose hobby)! http://www.etsy.com/shop/Tweet...
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Sep 27, 2011 7:06 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
@ Charlene: Congratulations!!
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Sep 27, 2011 7:36 AM CST
Name: Linda Williams
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
Organic Gardener Bookworm Enjoys or suffers hot summers Charter ATP Member Salvias Herbs
Bluebonnets Native Plants and Wildflowers Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge) Forum moderator Purslane Hummingbirder
Good idea, Charlene! And wow, that's a lot of roses, Toni! Bet it'll be so pretty!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
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Sep 27, 2011 11:04 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9b
Bulbs Region: California Cut Flowers Peonies Plant and/or Seed Trader Vegetable Grower
Definitely a Team No Lawn Member -

April 30, 2011 - that was the day that the last bit of lawn at my house was removed. All the grass was gone from the backyard 15 years ago when the swimming pool and basketball court was put in. Started my "Lawn no more" project on my front yard on April 2010 because I didn't see any value in a lawn - especially since I have no young kids that wants to run around on the grass anymore. If I am going to water something, it has to give back either food or beauty. And, I wanted to cut way back on the amount of landscape watering - and what is the point in growing something just to mow it back week after week? Since I was doing this one square foot at a time, I allotted myself three year to do this project. Once I got started, I decided to go full speed and got rid of all my lawn in 14 months. I divided up my front lawn area into three sections, and worked on one section at a time. I posted these photos recently on another thread, but since it fits so well in this theme, I am re-posting this series of photos from section 1 of my yard.

August 2009 - the way it was..............September 2010 - phase 1 is well on it's way...............September 2011 - not a speck of lawn here.
Thumb of 2011-09-27/soilsandup/913b53 Thumb of 2011-09-27/soilsandup/01e829 Thumb of 2011-09-27/soilsandup/98ba7b
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Sep 27, 2011 11:09 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Hurray! Hurray! @ Diane!
Well done!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Sep 27, 2011 11:16 AM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Wonderful! I tend to 'nibble' - when I weed on the edges of the remaining grass area, I tend to take a few inches here and there every time Big Grin

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