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Sep 7, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Name: Pam
Pennsylvania
Cat Lover Dog Lover Keeps Horses Irises Region: Pennsylvania
Re-bloom? Or spontaneous combustion from the temps out there?
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Sep 7, 2016 1:11 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
I think it's just confused, it's the first time it's bloomed. It was one of the bonuses from last years PNW sale.
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Sep 7, 2016 9:02 PM CST
Name: Elsa
Las Cruces, New Mexico (Zone 8a)
Dog Lover Irises Region: New Mexico Region: Southwest Gardening Region: United States of America
Welcome! Joan!!!! Welcome! William!!!!
If you think there is no more beauty left in the world...Plant a garden!!!
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Sep 7, 2016 9:15 PM CST
Name: daphne
san diego county, ca (Zone 10a)
Vermiculture Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
joan and william Welcome! Welcome! to this bunch on the iris forum.
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Sep 8, 2016 1:27 PM CST
Name: Carl Boro
Milpitas, CA (Zone 10b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
I solved that pesky rebloom problem. I just dug them all up.


Sigh. Now I have to replant them.

Irises all gone. I've removed 5 wheelbarrow loads of dirt. Then I put the boards all around the inside of the raised bed. That protects the rubber liner from the tines of my rototiller. I break it up with the shovel and rototill it well and then add fertilizer and compost.
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Here's my Mantis tiller mixing the compost and fertilizer into the soil
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After it's all done, I mix some of the soil that I removed with compost and fertilizer and fill the bed to the top.
This year I have been compacting the beds some after I am done and before I plant.
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Sep 8, 2016 1:43 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Looks good Carl. I need to do that with a couple of my older beds. I think they could benefit from some soil additions.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 8, 2016 1:58 PM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
That's looking good Carl! Thumbs up Don't do too much in this heat!
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Sep 8, 2016 2:13 PM CST
Name: Barbalee
Amarillo, TX (Zone 6b)
UndertheSun said:That's looking good Carl! Thumbs up Don't do too much in this heat!


I agree I agree
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Sep 8, 2016 2:43 PM CST
Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Foliage Fan Critters Allowed Daylilies Irises Roses
Hostas Birds Multi-Region Gardener Cat Lover Dog Lover Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Yup, I agree too - you could visit us here where it is a bit cooler, and do the same thing here in more comfort. Whistling Hilarious!
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Sep 8, 2016 2:50 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Do you like your little Mantis tiller? It doesn't look like you've got any rocks in that soil.. in fact it looks like really beautiful soil. Thumbs up
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Sep 8, 2016 5:04 PM CST
Name: Carl Boro
Milpitas, CA (Zone 10b)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Sherry, I love my Mantis. This is my second Mantis. I bought my first one back in the late seventies, early eighties. I worked it to death but it took many years. The Mantis saves me time and backbreaking labor.

When I had just regular raised beds without the liner the Mantis was the way to go. I would break the soil up some with a shovel and then rototill the far side of the bed, dragging the Mantis backwards (the correct way to use it) towards the center of the bed. When I got to the end of the bed, then I would change sides and do the other side. Over the years I found that the most efficient way was to drag the rototiller at an angle /////// down the bed and back the other side and then the opposite angle \\\\\\\ , then straight IIIIII. The pattern would look like this:

First pass ///////////// Second pass\\\\\\\\\\\\ Third pass IIIIIIIIIIIIII
///////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\ IIIIIIIIIIIIII

Of course, they would overlap in the middle but I don't know how to show that using the keyboard.

I also use my Mantis to mix my own potting soil. It's really great at mixing.

Over the years the rocks have be taken out. Ocasionally a rock will jam the tines (easily fixed) but it has to be just the right size. Most rocks are kicked to the surface by the tiller. I also sieve the soil that I took out of the bed before I mix it with the compost and fertilizer. This breaks up any large clumps and screens out any trash that came in with the previous batch of compost. That gives me a nice layer of soil to plant in.

My sister bought a Mantis. She didn't like it. She had trouble starting it. I have had some starting issues over the years, but it's mostly due to old gas. I did recently replace the carburator on mine after 20 plus years and now it starts easily. Mantis used to make an electric version.

I think most of the small drag type tillers are a good option with raised beds. That's how I have used mine all these years.
Carl
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Sep 8, 2016 7:04 PM CST
Name: Charlotte
Salt Lake City, Utah (Zone 7a)
genealogist specializing in French
Butterflies Bulbs Heucheras Hostas Irises Region: Utah
Welcome! Joan and William. The more the merrier.
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Sep 8, 2016 11:03 PM CST
Name: Sherry Austin
Santa Cruz, CA (Zone 9a)
Birds Bulbs Region: California Dragonflies Foliage Fan Irises
Keeper of Poultry Roses Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Thanks Carl! I've been thinking about a Mantis for years, and now a regular rototiller is just too big. If you hadn't told me how you did it, I probably would have done something similar.... I like being thorough... except for the sifting of the soil... My days of doing that are over.

I had a surprise when I went out to check a tag on an iris and found this in bloom... 'Milk in My Coffee' (Blyth 2015)
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Sep 9, 2016 2:18 AM CST
Name: Mika
Oxfordshire, England and Mento
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Foliage Fan Critters Allowed Daylilies Irises Roses
Hostas Birds Multi-Region Gardener Cat Lover Dog Lover Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
It's beautiful, Sherry - love the colours! Thumbs up
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Sep 9, 2016 3:21 AM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Nice one Sherry, I got that one as a bonus this year. Smiling
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Sep 9, 2016 7:01 AM CST
Name: Mary Ann
Western Kentucky (Zone 7a)
Bee Lover Irises Hummingbirder Hostas Keeps Horses Farmer
Daylilies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Container Gardener Cat Lover Region: Kentucky Birds
How beautiful, Sherry!! Thumbs up
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Sep 9, 2016 7:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Leslie
Durham, NC (Zone 8a)
Garden Photography Cat Lover Irises Region: North Carolina Peonies Enjoys or suffers hot summers
Celebrating Gardening: 2015
nodding Lovely.
"The chimera is a one time happenstance event where the plant has a senior moment and forgets what it is doing." - Paul Black
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Sep 9, 2016 8:46 AM CST
(Zone 9b)
Region: California Garden Ideas: Level 1
Another beauty in bloom Sherry! Thumbs up

I had a Mantis tiller years ago too. I broke it after using it in my rock hard dry clay soil. If I used it in Spring while the ground was still moist, it worked ok. The problem in starting them is the same problem that plagues all 2 stroke engines. Most people leave the old oil/gas mixture in tank when they put it away. You should empty it and run it until it's dry. Or do what I do...before I put any 2 stroke garden equipment away, I'll empty the gas and fill it with a little ethanol free gas and run it. That will clean up the carburetor and help prolong the life of your carb. gaskets too. You could just use ethanol free gas (as I do in my chainsaw), but it gets rather expensive for bigger jobs.
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Sep 9, 2016 9:07 AM CST
Name: Arlyn
Whiteside County, Illinois (Zone 5a)
Beekeeper Region: Illinois Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015
The trick, here, is finding "regular" gas anymore Glare . I need to replace carburetor parts on my JD about 2-3 times a season !
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Sep 9, 2016 1:09 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Butterflies Vegetable Grower Keeper of Poultry Irises Keeps Horses Dog Lover
Daylilies Cat Lover Region: Wisconsin Celebrating Gardening: 2015
My local Quick trip has ethanol free gas all the time. It's all I ever use in any of my small engines.
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