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Mar 18, 2017 8:59 AM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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Well, maybe a king............. Whistling
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Mar 18, 2017 2:20 PM CST
Name: Philip Becker
Fresno California (Zone 8a)
Thumbs up Ken ! I want to be queen to.
Gymgirls compost will be good for ornamentals, but i wouldnt use it for veges.
I do wonder, how much of the unregulated chemicals would wash off the banana peels. Peels are bound to absorb some. Has anybody ever done a study, of how far the unknown chemicals soak threw the peel, or, maybe, into the bananas ? DDT is only thing that came to mind, the other day. It could be, say, diazion, DPCP, or CLORIDANE !😬!
My dad, never had bugs in his garden ! πŸ˜•? Maybe, because he sprayed cloridane around the house and garage every year.
NOW ###
Watch people jump on this bandwagon !😁!
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Mar 20, 2017 7:47 AM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
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If you buy and eat organic food, any peelings, etc, will be just fine for your gardens.
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Mar 20, 2017 11:23 AM CST
Name: stone
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texaskitty111 said:Just a interesting story about DDT. My husband and his friends, as a child, use to play in the stream of pesticides by following the truck. The drivers said nothing. He has no physical problems. Maybe it killed any parasites???

Good genes....
I've seen video of DDT being sprayed on kids in the swimming pool....
I don't know how toxic that stuff was to humans, the problem was it's cumulative nature... Like how radiation builds up in your bones, critters at the top of the food chain got the accumulation of the DDT from all the critters that only had a light exposure....
Rachael Carson wrote about the birds... And those egg shells that didn't have enough calcium....
But... It's disturbing.... All those people blithely using poison, thinking it was harmless.....
Round-up in your salad anybody?
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Jun 19, 2017 11:10 AM CST
Name: Robyn
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Garlic and onion experts...

A lot of my garlic from the fall didn't grow, you can note the open spots in the patch. Also, some are getting scapes now and the other kind are not.. not sure if that is just the type of garlic grown on that side of the patch. They are all watered the same, fertilized the same, i think. Are they looking OK or too small for this time of year? They are just starting to yellow and I'm not sure they should yet.

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The onions are doing well.. I think.. almost ALL of them are thriving, which surprised me. The ones closest to me in the picture were started from seeds, the others from sets. I can see them start to bulb now, I figure I just let them do their thing now.. everything look ok?

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Jun 19, 2017 11:38 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Robyn, your onion plants look great! Thumbs up

Your garlic plants do look kind of small to me; do you know what kind you planted? Some types are much better suited for our northern gardens than others. In general, the hardneck types are better in the north than softneck garlic varieties, although I have a softneck called "K's Backyard," from Baker Creek that seems just as vigorous as the hardneck types that I grow. I also have a Creole garlic, Ajo Rojo, and the plants of that are about the size that yours appear to be; so, there is quite a variation in how well the different kinds might do in your garden. Also, if you planted a hardneck type and a softneck type, that would explain why only some of them (the hardnecks) have scapes.

Did you give your garlic patch any fertilizer and/or compost?

I always get some yellowing on my leaves like you have, long before harvest time; it doesn't seem to signal any actual problem.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:40 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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It may be different varieties, Robyn, @robynanne. That's the reason you need to label what you plant. Different varieties grow differently and harvest differently. Just like any vegetable, some cloves/seeds germinate, some don't. I don't know if your plants look good or not so good. I really can't tell you the time-frame of growth and harvest, since your weather conditions are radically different then mine here in Mississippi. I have a feeling that your harvest period would be 6-8 wks. behind mine though. Your onions look fine.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:49 AM CST
Name: Robyn
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drdawg said:It may be different varieties, Robyn, @robynanne. That's the reason you need to label what you plant. Different varieties grow differently and harvest differently. Just like any vegetable, some cloves/seeds germinate, some don't. I don't know if your plants look good or not so good. I really can't tell you the time-frame of growth and harvest, since your weather conditions are radically different then mine here in Mississippi. I have a feeling that your harvest period would be 6-8 wks. behind mine though. Your onions look fine.


The garlic is Chesnok red hardneck and... one that starts with a 'T' and I can't seem to recall it right now, though i do have them marked so I can check when I get home. They were both listed as being good variety for my zone.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:54 AM CST
Name: Robyn
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Weedwhacker said:Robyn, your onion plants look great! Thumbs up

Your garlic plants do look kind of small to me; do you know what kind you planted? Some types are much better suited for our northern gardens than others. In general, the hardneck types are better in the north than softneck garlic varieties, although I have a softneck called "K's Backyard," from Baker Creek that seems just as vigorous as the hardneck types that I grow. I also have a Creole garlic, Ajo Rojo, and the plants of that are about the size that yours appear to be; so, there is quite a variation in how well the different kinds might do in your garden. Also, if you planted a hardneck type and a softneck type, that would explain why only some of them (the hardnecks) have scapes.

Did you give your garlic patch any fertilizer and/or compost?

I always get some yellowing on my leaves like you have, long before harvest time; it doesn't seem to signal any actual problem.


Ahh, good to know that only the hardneck ones do the scapes. I thought I had the types saved online but I can't find a list here at work anywhere so I'll just have to wait until I get home to read the labels. I've been fertilizing quite a lot, though my sandy ground drains quickly so it is always a battle to keep it fertilized. I added bags of composted manure when I built the patch last fall, and mixed in peat. Then I put in the 'seeds'. this spring I've been adding bone and blood meal and epsom salt, and I've put in a few of those little spikes to attempt to keep the fertilizer around longer. They also have hay, not straw, that has been there since the fall and breaking down into the soil - and after I weed I add a little compost.

So *hopefully* they should be set but I'm always working to keep up with the sandy ground, so I get paranoid when I see yellow. Here's hoping over time all the stuff I add will build up a better soil.
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Jun 19, 2017 1:09 PM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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The Chesnok Red is a great garlic, and is particularly well-suited when baked. But it is a good all-around garlic regardless how you use it. It will store 4-6 mo. There are several garlics that begin with a "T". I grow the Transylvanian and there is Thermadrone. There are several softnecks that come to mind, Thai Purple, Thai Fire, Topal, and Tzan. Though the hardnecks are most often the garlics grown in the north, many of the softnecks are grown successfully there, and well into Canada.

Sometimes softnecks will grow those scapes. Last year I had two varieties of softneck that grew typical scapes. I don't remember the names and I don't think any of my softneck grew scapes this year.

I only fertilize twice, Robyn. I use an organic fertilizer in the fall when planting, and it breaks down over a couple of months. In early spring, usually early March, I will fertilize again. That fertilizer is 5-5-5 and won't burn roots or developing bulbs.
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Jun 19, 2017 1:22 PM CST
Name: Robyn
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drdawg said:The Chesnok Red is a great garlic, and is particularly well-suited when baked. But it is a good all-around garlic regardless how you use it. It will store 4-6 mo. There are several garlics that begin with a "T". I grow the Transylvanian and there is Thermadrone. There are several softnecks that come to mind, Thai Purple, Thai Fire, Topal, and Tzan. Though the hardnecks are most often the garlics grown in the north, many of the softnecks are grown successfully there, and well into Canada.

Sometimes softnecks will grow those scapes. Last year I had two varieties of softneck that grew typical scapes. I don't remember the names and I don't think any of my softneck grew scapes this year.

I only fertilize twice, Robyn. I use an organic fertilizer in the fall when planting, and it breaks down over a couple of months. In early spring, usually early March, I will fertilize again. That fertilizer is 5-5-5 and won't burn roots or developing bulbs.


I wanna say the 'T' one is russian as well.. it is one word and pretty long. I'd recognize it if I saw it, so it wasn't one you listed.
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Jun 19, 2017 3:40 PM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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Tell me when you get home and see the label. Nothing else that begins with a "T" comes to mind.
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Jun 20, 2017 9:30 AM CST
Name: Robyn
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drdawg said:Tell me when you get home and see the label. Nothing else that begins with a "T" comes to mind.


Tochliavri!
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Jun 20, 2017 10:41 AM CST
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Name: Ken Ramsey
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That's a new one for me, at least the name. This is the Red Toch and I do grow that. I don't have a clue why it would go by two names. Weird nodding
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Jun 20, 2017 11:47 AM CST
Name: Robyn
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drdawg said:That's a new one for me, at least the name. This is the Red Toch and I do grow that. I don't have a clue why it would go by two names. Weird nodding


lol! Yep, same thing. I did read while looking it up today that even if the leaves seems small some years, they usually will make a decent bulb. Here's hoping. It also said they tend to be 'ready earlier' which doesn't mean much to me since I'm not really sure what 'normal' is for being ready to pull.
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Jun 20, 2017 1:00 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Ken Ramsey
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@robynanne, even after growing garlic for five years, I still don't always know "exactly" when to dig bulbs up. Some of my varieties' stems will literally fall over. OK, time to dig. But most don't holler at you: "Dig me up". For me, when about half the lower leaves have turned brown and brittle, it is time to dig. But even this can be challenging since many varieties continue to grow green leaves well into the spring. Humm, are half the lower leaves brown? I do occasionally (carefully) dig around bulbs, just to see their size. But if I don't know whether the bulbs are supposed to be small, medium, or large, what am I looking for? Bulb size is in the eye of the beholder (digger). Growing the garlic is sort of easy. Its just a winter crop. Harvesting isn't so easy.
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Jun 20, 2017 1:13 PM CST
Name: Robyn
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drdawg said:@robynanne, even after growing garlic for five years, I still don't always know "exactly" when to dig bulbs up. Some of my varieties' stems will literally fall over. OK, time to dig. But most don't holler at you: "Dig me up". For me, when about half the lower leaves have turned brown and brittle, it is time to dig. But even this can be challenging since many varieties continue to grow green leaves well into the spring. Humm, are half the lower leaves brown? I do occasionally (carefully) dig around bulbs, just to see their size. But if I don't know whether the bulbs are supposed to be small, medium, or large, what am I looking for? Bulb size is in the eye of the beholder (digger). Growing the garlic is sort of easy. Its just a winter crop. Harvesting isn't so easy.


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