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May 28, 2017 1:11 PM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
Give me a couple years and I'll be there with you in seedling variation. But with lilies, not day lilies. I have a ton of seedlings going.
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May 28, 2017 2:32 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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I tried so hard to get some lilies going from seed but they all failed. Now scaling on the other hand I was successful with.
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May 29, 2017 3:29 PM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
What kind of lily seed did you try? Asiatic is the easiest to start usually. I started all my seed in baggies with some slightly damp media. once I saw the hairpins shoot through, I moved under lights. Eventually I potted everything. Orientals and martagons, some species and OTs germinate differently. They need a warm/cold cycle. I have not tried many of those. And the few I did try, I was not successful with.
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May 29, 2017 6:55 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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I tried all types but my media was perlite in a bag what was yours
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May 30, 2017 5:04 AM CST
Name: Dave
Southern wisconsin (Zone 5b)
Japanese Maples Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Pollen collector Peonies Lilies
Irises Hybridizer Hummingbirder Dog Lover Daylilies Clematis
I used some stuff called sungro. A lot of other people I know are using promix.

This was what worked for me. I cut the bottom corners off a sandwich bag, and a few slits along the bottom or punch small holes with a skewer. Add a handful of media or so that is slightly damp. Place seeds and cover with a quarter inch of media. After that I closed the baggie and kept them in a dark place in basement. Check every couple days for the cotyledons. Once you see them, put under lights. This works for seed that is immediate epigeal. So asiatics, trumpets, most OT and some species
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Jun 2, 2017 9:30 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
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Jun 3, 2017 5:45 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Daniel-- This looks so fantastic now, when everything matures it will be unbelievable! I know of the struggles you have had in the garden. Hard work is well hard work. You have earned a beautiful garden. I am happy for you and your family to be able to enjoy this!

May everything around you grow in goodness!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jun 3, 2017 6:04 AM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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Thanks Sharon, you are right it has not been easy getting to this point but seeing the yard full of blooms makes it all worth it and then some. I'm still behind on weeding but I'll get them someday hopefully before everything goes to seed. *Blush* Besides that the garden has been taking care of it's self for the most part this year.
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Jun 4, 2018 7:57 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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These are a few daylily seedlings that bloomed so far this year
Always Afternoon x Bluegrass Memories
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Always Afternoon x Bluegrass Memories sibbling
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make room for miracles x wild horses
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Galaxy Explosion X Lillian's Vapor Trail
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moonlit masquerade x Off beat
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moonlit masquerade x Off beat sibbling
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paper butterfly x Nancy's quilt
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Jun 4, 2018 8:29 PM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Those are nice! Thumbs up I really like the first one and fifth one. The second one and last one are really nice too! That last one looks like it has a bunch of buds. They all look like they will be really good garden daylilies! When would these seeds have been planted? The seedlings that are first blooms for me this year were planted in the late summer/early fall of 2016. Just wondering if that was normal.

May you have an overabundance of blessings for success!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jun 4, 2018 11:37 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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Thank You! Most of these where planted in 2016 some in fall 2015. I'm going through all my older seedlings and tossing out all that haven't lived up to our expectations. My wife Krystal hates when I dig up a daylily. She wants to keep them all but the more new blooms she sees the more I think she understands why I've been culling some. Over the next few years we should have some really nice seedlings come from our breeding program and from seeds that I purchased or that where shared with me.
So far this year I have been using a lot of pollen from the following parents
blue jay tapestry
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Face maker


Waves of joy
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Krystal has been doing a lot of watermarked crosses, while I tend to like big eyes that extend into the sepals. She does her thing and I do mine but we help each other also. She also crosses dips but I have given up on dips and only focus on tets now. Last year I separated all the named dips from the tets so the only dips left near the tets are seedling that are being evaluated but they too will eventualy go to the dip garden. It makes hybridizing so much easier when the ploidies are separated especially when you have a bunch of different daylilies. I basically know what are dips and what's tets now in my garden but with some of seedlings I got as gifts or in trades I'll have to run check the parent's ploidy before I cross them.
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Jun 4, 2018 11:45 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Jun 5, 2018 12:05 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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I could see how that would make it easier, separating dips and tets. I always get one wrong D'Oh! wasted the pollen and the pod parent. Right now I just dabble and tell myself use the best daylily available. No specific goal. When you will have to cull what is your bud count for keeping? And what other statistics do you use?

That is great Krystal is hybridizing, too. Pulling her away from those iris. I have Royal Frosting, dip, good bud count, rebloom, I think pod and pollen fertile, white, but you would swear the flower and scape is a tet. Very sturdy. I have another one like that too have to check the name. Let you know.

May you both be blessed with success!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 20, 2018 10:35 AM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
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Sorry for the late reply Sharon. On bud counts I'm looking for anything over 20 and blooms that above the foliage 18-48 inches is a perfect range for me. Too tall and they tend to fall after a heavy rain or get blown over in the wind. Too short and you can't see the blooms because of the foliage. That's not saying I won't keep something that looks amazing if they don't fall in that category or if they have some expensive genes in them.
On my last post I mentioned that blue jay tapestry was one of my main pollen parents this year. I'm sad to say it's barely pollen fertile and for me is not pod fertile at all. It has been the best bloomer in the garden with instant rebloom and even more new scapes appearing now. Face maker didn't do too much better with fertility but I had over 60 bluejay tap blooms this year and may have 6 pods with it as a pollen parent out of 300 or 400 blooms. I only had about 8 blooms from Face maker and may have 7 or 8 pods with it as a pollen parent and hit maybe 40 or 50 blooms with it so the percentage is better but not like other flowers I've used this year. Waves of Joy only gave us 5 or 6 flowers and I'm seeing about 8 pods with it as a pollen parent but no pods on it. The most pollen fertile variety for me this year has been Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Through the Fire') The most pod fertile plant this year is a seedling of Rosy Spiketail X Vampire Bat
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Here are a few new photos since I last checked in.
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Jul 20, 2018 7:55 PM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Daniel-- WOW! Those are all simply beautiful! Lots of nice butterfly shots! Hurray! That is a bummer about Blue Jay Tapestry. I was anxiously awaiting your results. I have a lot of selfs that I would like to put a kind of solid eye on, and I thought that would be a nice one to use. I would say do not give up. This was a strange year. I have a daylily that I have been using because I like the color to see if I could get something similar with better stats. Last year it was pod and pollen fertile, no problem. This year I concentrated on using it, nothing either way. I do not even think they started and aborted. So things can change from year to year. I do not know why that happens but, maybe try one more year. Results could be different.

Looking at the database pictures, Regina's picture looks like her's has tons of fluffy pollen. Why don't you send her a tree mail and ask about pod and pollen fertility? and James picture has the bloom pollinated. Maybe see what his did this year and last year.

I always enjoy your photos and flowers!

May you and your family have an overabundance of special blessings!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 20, 2018 11:34 PM CST
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Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
Thanks Sharon, I love all your photos also.
The pollen has been fluffly and dark on my Bluejay tapestry so maybe this years heat had something to do with it's low fertility. The past 2 days have been super mild here so maybe Ill use it's pollen this weekend and see what happens.
Rock solid is a sure bet solid eye with know fertility both ways you may want to consider for your goals. I have a few lovely seedlings with it in their parentage and one in particular is a real stand out in the garden. I don't own rock solid it's self but glad I have it's genes to use in my hrybridizing program.
Face paint has been fertile both ways for us and has a solid eye. I think it has one of the few pods to take with Bluejay tap on it.
I too am a fan of eyes on daylilies especialy when they extend in the sepals and have etching or multiple colors in the eye. I also like to have a white or light color around the eye to make it stand out better.
Next year there will be a ton more seedlings blooming in the garden. I'll try stay on top of posting new pics a little better than I did this year. During hybridizing season it's just hard to find time to post anything or even get on the net for that matter.
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Jul 21, 2018 6:03 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
Grace of the Lord Jesus be with all
Amaryllis Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Salvias Lilies Irises
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I looked up Rock Solid and said that is an eye I could live with but then the big "D" jumped out at me. I said never a Dormant Thumbs down . Does not seem to work here. Then I said Stamile and looked at its parents which are both evergreens. Shrug! What is that about? Don't understand it, not sure if I could use it or will I be causing myself problems. I like that idea of white, too.
I also like watermarks. After the weather this year I like anything that grows and blooms. I do not think I can afford to be choosy.

Have been having AC problems this week. I did some big praying to Mary asking for her to intercede for me with Jesus figuring out the AC. Everyday I have been doing something to the AC. I do not know if I would call it working on it. Blinking Last night I spent the whole time cleaning the evaporator coil. Internet comments were it took like 12 hours. They were not kidding. It took me an hour and a half, maybe two hours just to unscrew its door. Crappy rusted hex screws, without the screwdriver inset. 3 or 4 simply would not budge. My daughter and I took turns trying. After a half hour of searching on the internet, I found a hint to heat the metal screws to loosen. It said take a blow torch to it, cause I have one of those. Then I thought I have one of those long lighters for candles. I heated them for a little bit and they came right off. What a blessing. Actual coils a little bit grimmy and dirty. Everytime I came to a problem I had stop and look for a solution. Have it back together not really screwed together. I need to go buy new hex screws with a screwdriver top. I am not going to use those other ones. Say a prayer for me that our AC holds, next step would be a service call Sad I think I may send her to Home Depot and go to bed.

May this weekend be full of good times and special blessings for you and your family!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 21, 2018 7:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
Pollen collector Fruit Growers Permaculture Hybridizer Plant and/or Seed Trader Organic Gardener
Daylilies Region: South Carolina Garden Ideas: Level 2 Garden Photography Herbs Region: United States of America
I am so sorry to hear about your a.c. troubles. We will be praying for you. Its way too hot to go without an a.c. If all else fails and you have a little extra cash check craigslist for a window unit. Sometimes they are only 30 bucks on there and can provide a little relief for you. Last year when ours went out we got 2 window units off Craigslist for $100 from the same person. They were moving and wanted $80 for 1 and $50 for the other but took $100 for both. If it get's too bad you need to get out of there and go somewhere you can cool off. Is there any a.c. people that go to your church? You need to be very careful inside the a.c.. I think most have capasiters that store energy and can still shock you even with the power off. Please be careful Sharon we can't have anything happen to you. Group hug
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Jul 23, 2018 8:58 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
Grace of the Lord Jesus be with all
Amaryllis Region: Texas Enjoys or suffers hot summers Salvias Lilies Irises
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Thank You! for your prayers. I think the AC just can not keep up with how hot it is. I clean the condenser coils outside regularly because of all the cottonwood trees. Can be weekly when the trees are seeding. So I cleaned them again real good, changed batteries on the thermostat 'cause it seems like it had been a couple of years, changed filters which I do regularly. I even vacuum the filters in between changes. I have a very big cold air return that is 50 percent filters. I actually designed it that way because mobile homes can lack air flow. Cleaned on the drain-out and the evaporator coil. I timed it and its cooling cycle was about 15 minutes which is ok. I think the last time we had such an extended heat wave was 7 years ago, so the unit was much newer. I have it set at 82 now. Thumbs up

May joy and happiness continually surround your family!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Aug 14, 2018 6:27 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Daniel Erdy
Catawba SC (Zone 7b)
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