Plant Database forum: My photos.

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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 12:02 PM CST
Not sure if this is the correct forum to post this but figured I'd ask here. Does anyone know anything about the website: http://worldofsucculents.com/ ?? I came across one of my photos on their site and noticed in tiny print at the bottom of the picture it says, photo via davesgarden.com

This is my photo in our garden.org database:


And, the same photo is on this page at the other website, but without my copywrite/watermark: http://worldofsucculents.com/hoya-carnosa-wax-plant/#prettyP...

I'm sure that photo was in the database at DG from when I was a member over there and I'm wondering if that succulent website is perhaps owned by the same company that now owns DG? When I was a member at DG and posting my photos, I suppose I gave permission for them to use my pictures but do I have any recourse to have this other website remove my photo or at least credit me as the photo owner? It's not really a big deal but I was just surprised to see my picture without my copyright mark. I have authorized a couple of times for my photos to be used but they've always given credit to me as the owner/photographer. Did I relinquish ownership of photos I uploaded in the past to the DG site?
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 16, 2016 12:16 PM CST
Are you able to remove your photos from the DG site, like we can over here? At the very least, since this succulent site is using your photo, you should at least ask that the credit line reflect and link to NGA rather than DG. Seems this copyright issue keeps cropping up.
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 12:37 PM CST
Deb, I haven't been on the DG site in a few years, I left over there when Dave and Trish left. I will see if I can find a contact us link at that succulent site and request that they use my name on my photo. I wonder if I should check the DG site to see if my name still appears on my db photos there! Maybe they've removed everyone's copyright mark?
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Name: Deb
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Bonehead
Jul 16, 2016 12:41 PM CST
Yeah, I don't know anything about DG anymore either. I wouldn't mind removing all my content, but I think that is water under the bridge and likely out to sea by now!
I want to live in a world where the chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 12:46 PM CST
Interesting ... I just went over to the DG site and tried to log in and got an error message that the user ID and/or password was incorrect. I can't remember what my password was over there but my username has always been plantladylin ... so I typed my e-mail address in for them to send me a link to change my password and a message came back saying that e-mail address is not present in their system!! So, I tried an old e-mail address that my husband and I both used from our cable company and got the same exact message!! We've had computers since the mid to late 1970's and those are the only two email addresses that I've ever used!!
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 12:47 PM CST
Bonehead said: I wouldn't mind removing all my content, but I think that is water under the bridge and likely out to sea by now!

Yeah, you are probably right. I'd love to be able to remove every trace of me over there. Rolling on the floor laughing

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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Jul 16, 2016 4:48 PM CST

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The photo in DG PlantFiles has your name on it, Lin.

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/252929/

And here's your member page.

http://davesgarden.com/members/plantladylin/
Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
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Calif_Sue
Jul 16, 2016 5:07 PM CST

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The succulent site has a Contact link at the bottom. Just because they added a teeny tiny "Photo via DavesGarden' does not make it right. The copyright is quite clear "Unauthorized Use Prohibited" Just because they cropped that out does not excuse them from outright theft!
I can't find any info who owns the site, their terms do mention a copyright rules, too bad they don't use it. They do mention that the site is controlled by "Perfect Insight, Inc." which, according to several online sources, is resolved.

I personally would demand it's removal, just for the fact that they deliberately removed that copyright.
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 6:15 PM CST
zuzu said:The photo in DG PlantFiles has your name on it, Lin. ]http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/252929/

zuzu, yeah I knew it was in the DG plant files ... just wondered why it was at that succulent website with my copyright cropped out.


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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 6:16 PM CST
Calif_Sue said: I personally would demand it's removal, just for the fact that they deliberately removed that copyright.

I think I will see if I can contact them through that link at their site and ask that they remove the image.


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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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zuzu
Jul 16, 2016 6:25 PM CST

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plantladylin said:I wonder if I should check the DG site to see if my name still appears on my db photos there! Maybe they've removed everyone's copyright mark?


You said you weren't sure your name was on the photo there. That's why I told you it has your name on it.
Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 6:46 PM CST
I sent them an e-mail through their contact link asking them to remove my image and desist from using my copyrighted photos in the future without my authorization ... now to see if they respond.
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
Region: United States of America Morning Glories Region: Florida Houseplants Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Procrastinator Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
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plantladylin
Jul 16, 2016 7:13 PM CST
LOL, I haven't done it in a long time but out of curiosity I googled my username (plantladylin) ... seems a lot of places use photos correctly (showing the copyright) but I found another photo of mine at a website called onlyimage.com - Free Images. The copyright with my info has been cropped out http://www.onlyimage.com/photo/photo-of-the-fruit-of-asparag... but it does say below the image: Photo of the fruit of Asparagus Fern by plantladylin (All Things Plants) from onlyimage.com



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Name: Suzanne/Sue
Sebastopol, CA (Zone 9a)
Sunset Zone 15
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Calif_Sue
Jul 16, 2016 7:56 PM CST

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I don't think that's right, they are removing images from here, cropping out copyrights, offering them up for free but this is still a business, they sell images too.
Maybe @dave needs to see that site
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