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Jul 20, 2016 8:09 AM CST
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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I will be posting a review in the Green Pages once I receive the item, but I just wanted to let you guys know the amazing customer service experience I just had with Oakes! Some of you might recall that I recently had a bloom that was supposed to be Ciao, but clearly wasn't (see this post: http://garden.org/thread/view_... ). I was really excited about having Ciao, both because of the name and the pretty red blooms and, unfortunately, I got a white with an eye (perhaps my least favorite type of daylily), so I was a little disappointed, but figured at least it was free since I got it using a gift card I won in a previous NARR.

Thanks to Sharon's encouragement ( @Altheabyanothername ), I decided to contact them and let them know. I didn't get around to it until about 7am this morning and I just checked my email a bit ago (a little before 10am) and they had already sent me a receipt for a no-cost shipment to my house of Ciao AND sent another email responding to me personally to let me know they were sorry for the wrong item being sent, but that they would send a replacement.

***Fantastic customer service, Oakes! I'm mighty impressed!*** Thumbs up Lovey dubby Hurray! ....mighty Oakes....? Rolling my eyes.


The only thing they didn't do was tell me what they thought it was that I might have. I'm wondering if I should ask them again, or just forget about it. (I'm going to donate the old one to the nearby club to sell and see if they can make some money for the club off of it...but it would probably help if I knew the name of it.)
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Jul 20, 2016 9:21 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! I have quite a few old Oakes catalogs, if you could again post any pictures or stats. I will look through them. Glad you got great customer service, I always have. May you have a joy filled week!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 20, 2016 3:25 PM CST
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Sharon, I'm not sure I understand your request... Did you want me to post pictures from their new catalog? (What would you like stats of?)
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Jul 20, 2016 3:33 PM CST
Name: Heidi
CT (Zone 6a)
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I recently had a similar thing happen with a daylily that I had purchased from Woodhenge. Once I realized that it wasn't Pumpkin Time, I emailed them with pictures inquiring about what it was. They went above and beyond, first apologizing profusely and then identifying what it was and since they no longer had Pumpkin Time, they also had me pick out another daylily upto an amount that was way way more than what I had originally paid. Within a few days I had my new plant (another Bud builder) plus another bonus plant!!!!!

They too have gotten a rave review on our Green Pages and I will definitely look to do business with them again.
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Jul 20, 2016 4:14 PM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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DND--stats of the Noid daylily height and bloom size , then I will look through old catalogs to see if I can find a name for it, and if you had more than one picture. Have a happy day!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 20, 2016 6:05 PM CST
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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Oh, thank you, Sharon!! The height of the scape (maybe 6-8"?) will probably be off from what it is supposed to be because it isn't well established, is in less than ideal soil, and because nearly all of my daylilies are shorter this year than last year.

I will try to get measurements on the next bloom, but i might be able to figure it out from the picture and where the petals line up with the words on the tag...
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Jul 21, 2016 7:30 AM CST
Name: Sharon Rose
Grapevine, TX (Zone 8a)
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DND-- That was so tough looking at all those daylily catalogs! Hilarious!
Just a note Oakes grows alot of Siloam in which there can be small ones. Siloam Button Box and Siloam Ury Winniford are two they carried. I just listed these smaller ones with eye, in case your Noid still wants to grow or that eye change. Custard Candy, Elfin Envoy, Exotic Echo, Todd Monroe. Hope maybe you see something that looks familiar to your Noid. May you be blessed with a terrific Thursday!
One to take to heart....1 John 4 ..............................................Where there is smoke...there is fire...in most cases the smoke will kill you long before the fire consumes you. Beware of smoke screens! Freedom is not free and when those who have not paid the price or made the sacrifice...think that only they are right and entitled to speak...they bring us tryanny.
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Jul 21, 2016 9:14 AM CST
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Thanks, Sharon! I'll take a look at those tonight and see what I can figure out. I tip my hat to you.
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Jul 21, 2016 9:44 AM CST
Name: Jessie Worsham
Stockbridge, GA (Zone 8a)
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Glad to hear they are sending Ciao! Your NOID looks like Pandora's box to me, and Oakes does have it, but then again, there are a lot of white w/ eye type daylilies... Just a guess.
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Jul 22, 2016 7:11 AM CST
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Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
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I've checked all of the suggestions and all of them have green throats. Mine might just be behind the curve since it's new to the garden (or based on garden chemistry?)...but mine seems to have a pretty clear yellow throat. It also looks like it has a hint of a picotee (?) edge...the purple going up the side just a tiny bit. Thoughts?

Pictures coming in just a moment...

Edited to add: They were great suggestions, though! Sorry...I just realized my post might have seemed like I didn't appreciate all of the great suggestions and effort you're putting into helping me ID this, but I do!
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Jul 22, 2016 7:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
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Plant height picture below (I would consider this very unreliable, though...but atleast it'll probably indicate that this is not a particularly tall variety...I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it's normal or registered height is probably 18" or less? Shrug! )
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Jul 22, 2016 7:44 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
I just re-emailed Oakes, asking them for an ID and suggesting it might be something that grows next to Ciao, since they didn't mention anything about my request for an ID in the previous email. She responded back saying that since there are thousands of registered daylilies, it would be impossible to guess which one it would be. (I'm wondering if the people responding to emails don't have ready access to garden maps...or especially to previous garden maps?) She was very polite about it, though, and wished me luck. It just might have to go to its new home as a nameless daylily. Shrug!
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Jul 22, 2016 8:05 AM CST
Name: Becky
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That's too bad. I am sure by looking at the photo, they could've narrowed down the cultivar. Perhaps they are just too busy right now to offer you more help. Perhaps Winter time would be a good time to ask again. Just a thought. But of course, you are getting rid of it, so it does not matter?
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Jul 22, 2016 8:11 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
Yes, I'll be donating it very soon--possibly as soon as tomorrow. I imagine Oakes is swamped right now, so I'm not going to pursue it any further. Hopefully the new owner doesn't care so much about a name as about the daylily itself. Smiling
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Jul 22, 2016 8:15 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Dnd
SE Michigan (Zone 6a)
Daylilies Dog Lover Houseplants Organic Gardener I helped beta test the first seed swap Celebrating Gardening: 2015
Garden Ideas: Level 2
....I should mention that I split this into two last fall and so both have multiple fans now. The one that has been blooming (presumably because it gets the evening sun and the other 'clump' has only been getting morning sun) already has two pods growing on it with some nice crosses. I can confirm with near certainty that this variety is a TET, at the very least. Whomever gets the one with seedpods will miss out on blooms this year, but should get seeds from pollen parents Black Panther and Cave Lion! (...assuming that the plant doesn't abort them after it's been dug up and replanted.) Not too shabby. Whomever acquires the second clump won't get any seeds, but should get several blooms.
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