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Apr 25, 2017 5:22 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Alex, looking at your mini Phal, why to you want to repot it? To me it looks just fine as it is!

Chris, you are amazing! Thumbs up
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Apr 25, 2017 5:27 PM CST
Maryland
Well there is hardly any media in them like maybe 3 or 4 piece of small bark. Some charcoal and perlite
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Apr 25, 2017 5:32 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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But the roots look fine to me, why disturb them?
Alex, it is all in the way you water. I for one have only one mini Phal and I grow that one vertically mounted and essentially bare root. So I water the plant and let it just drip off.
As they say, there is more than one way to skin a cat, it simply depends on your conditions? Smiling
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Apr 25, 2017 6:05 PM CST
Maryland
How often are you watering it?
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Apr 25, 2017 6:18 PM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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Ursula said:Alex, looking at your mini Phal, why to you want to repot it? To me it looks just fine as it is!

Chris, you are amazing! Thumbs up


Thanks Ursula, I've got six mini's, and since you mentioned growing vertically in your next post I'd like to give that a try. How do you have yours mounted?
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Apr 25, 2017 6:39 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Actually, I few years ago I had bought this cute little Phal mounted horizontally on a piece of driftwood, together with a small Tillandsia. I hung it vertically and it seems ok so far. It just finished its Winter blooming and the spikes started to produce more buds at the tips.
My greenhouse dries up very quickly, so I water pretty much daily, especially during heating season. I collect rain water of the greenhouse roof, the water is routed into the garage (below the greenhouse), pressurize the container and simply spray the whole contents of the greenhouse with a shower attachment on a regular hose.
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Apr 25, 2017 7:00 PM CST
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Well mine are inside, so i dont think ill be spraying them with a hose lol
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Apr 25, 2017 7:05 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
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Surely not! Smiling
For years I took my Orchids to the sink, watered, let them drip off and put them back in their spot.
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Apr 25, 2017 7:05 PM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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I assume it was mounted with florist wire or something similar? I just did some Googling so I know what I need to do now.
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May 1, 2017 8:35 PM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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Well, I mounted a couple today. They don't look perfect and I may have used a little too much moss so I hope they continue putting out roots and don't die off on me.

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May 1, 2017 9:40 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I read in other orchid forums, some would use just a little moss and then use stockings to attach them to the mount.
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May 2, 2017 7:17 AM CST
Name: Chris Pollock
Copperas Cove, Tx (Zone 8a)
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I saw that also Tarev, I may try that method next time. I have a lot of the plastic louver material I used to make the humidity tray tops left and may try mounting onto that if this experiment is successful unless I can find some driftwood when I go to the coast later this month.
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May 6, 2017 10:39 PM CST
Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Got this Phal for a 50% off deal... It's in a plastic pot within a ceramic pot and I don't see any moss but barks. So I guess repot can be waited until the bloom over.
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May 8, 2017 9:08 AM CST
Name: tarev
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Your white Phal is very pretty. Lovey dubby It is a matter of preference Fiat. I prefer to repot even in bloom, so I can check very well the condition of the roots. I also try not to use full ceramic containers with no side holes. It is good your plant has an inner pot, as long as you allow the water to drain well after watering before putting back in the ceramic pot, it can work.

But knowing Phal roots, they really like lots of air around the root zone, so containers with side holes are preferable. If you can see the bark is still chunky enough and not too broken down, you can keep your Phal as is. Your photo does not really show how the bark media looks like.
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May 8, 2017 12:52 PM CST
Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Thanks, Tarev. I checked more and made some change: after I brought it home, I immediately gave it a bit water seeing its roots dried up in the air and barks dry too. Next day, I lifted the inside pot out (very difficult, only by lifting bloom sticks), only found 3/4" water left in bottom of ceramic pot (no drainage hole)!
So I found one of my ceramic pot with drainage hole and put the phal in and made a small pebble tray under it. Today, I thought about the air issue like you mentioned and tried to find a terracotta pot for it. No luck! The plant is in a 5" pot and I only have either 6" (with side slides), or 4" & 8" (w/o ss). Thinking that putting the 5" plastic pot in a 6" outside pot would cause it stay inside unstable/unsteady... I am still hesitate doing it... What do you think? Mostly really don't dare to repot it now while blooming!
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May 8, 2017 2:37 PM CST
Name: tarev
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You can use styrofoam peanuts wrapped inside a nylon baggie, as in between filler to your inner and outer container, that way it is easier to remove the styro peanuts if you have to, during watering time.
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May 8, 2017 4:25 PM CST
Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Thanks, Tarev. Maybe I can just throw in some barks between inner and outer pots to hold the inner steady? Will see...
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May 8, 2017 4:39 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Yup, whatever works to stabilize it. Good luck!
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May 9, 2017 9:52 PM CST
Name: Fiat
Modesto -The Central Valley of (Zone 9b)
Not perfect, but close to ideal, I think, after a few re-arrangements:
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May 9, 2017 10:26 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Looks okay! Later on when you are ready, repot it directly in that clay container and slightly tilt the plant to the side to mimic its natural position as if grown outdoors on branches.

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