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Oct 8, 2011 10:03 PM CST
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
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Took a little walk to the canal by my house and spotted the little critter.
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And to think I used to swim in this canal when I was little.
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Oct 9, 2011 5:08 AM CST
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Name: Sandi
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Oct 9, 2011 5:46 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Awwwww, he doesn't eat much Jay. Hilarious!
On a serious note.... growing up in south Fl. I can certainly relate to that. As kids we never worried about stuff like that. We grow up & get freaked out.
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Oct 9, 2011 6:38 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
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I had no idea you got those in Texas! Growing up in the San Joaquin Valley in California, we swam in the irrigation canals, large concrete affairs which scare the dickens out of me now to think we used to swim in them, but we did not have gators or crocs to deal with. I don't know if that's a gator or croc..don't want to get familiar enough with them to know the diff. Is this a normal occurence? Were you surprised to see him /her?
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Oct 9, 2011 7:19 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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That's a gator. Difference can easily be determined by shape & width of snout. Crocs have far more "pointy" snouts; they taper sharply from the head to the nose. Gators have much more rounded, wide snouts.
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Oct 9, 2011 7:59 AM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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Are they native to Texas?
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Oct 9, 2011 8:41 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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I can't say for sure but you can Google it. I don't have time at the moment or I would. Always curious here. Blinking
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Oct 9, 2011 9:36 AM CST
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Name: Jay
Nederland, Texas (Zone 9a)
Region: Texas Region: Gulf Coast Charter ATP Member I helped beta test the first seed swap I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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wcgypsy said:I had no idea you got those in Texas! Growing up in the San Joaquin Valley in California, we swam in the irrigation canals, large concrete affairs which scare the dickens out of me now to think we used to swim in them, but we did not have gators or crocs to deal with. I don't know if that's a gator or croc..don't want to get familiar enough with them to know the diff. Is this a normal occurence? Were you surprised to see him /her?
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Alligators are very common around here. If you have ever seen the TV show Gator 911 on CMT, it is filmed in this area. However this one was a bit of a suprise because I have never seen one in this canal or this close to my house.
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Oct 9, 2011 10:49 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Jay, no doubt the drought had something to do with his being there; don't you think? I wonder how far he traveled to find that canal?
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Oct 9, 2011 10:50 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
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Were you jumping up and down and nobody there to share it with?...lol...
I could be wrong...
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Oct 9, 2011 11:38 AM CST
Name: Stephanie Gonzales
Texas (Zone 8a)
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I know they are further down south in the Trinity so I don't see what there would be to keep them from coming up this way. I'm sure they probably are though I just don't know about it Smiling
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Oct 9, 2011 11:42 AM CST
Name: Veronica Dykes
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Alligators are native to Texas. Since they got on the endangered list, they have made a remarkable recovery and are now returning to their old haunts. Our ranch butts up to the Colorado River here in south Central Texas very near to where, during the war for independence, Sam Houston and his party crossed on their way east toward what is now the San Jacinto Battleground. He lost several men to alligators.

We haven't seen any up this far north, but we have definitely seen them closer to the coast.
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Oct 9, 2011 1:10 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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Veronica,Have the gators numberes recovered enough yet that controlled hunting is now allowed? Just curious. Here in Fl. we had the same endangered situation & they recovered rather quickly such to the point that now, once a year, the state holds a "lottery" for permission to shoot them. There are regulations involved in that. But the numbers are such that if left unchecked there would be a population explosion.
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Oct 9, 2011 2:26 PM CST
Name: Veronica Dykes
central Texas
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Ann, Hunting season varies by county and is limited to one alligator per person or tag depending on the county. Right now alligators are not a problem in this area.

What I do have problems with are Black Vultures and Caracaras, AKA Mexican Eagles. They are very agressive toward newborn calves. This is calving season for us and already I have lost one newborn heifer (I raise registered Angus.) to them. Sometimes they attack as the calf is being born and peck out the eyes and kill it. The cow can't protect her calf because she lies down to give birth. These ugly birds are protected by the Migratory Act, but it is possible to get a permit to harass them. I was so sickened when I went to check on the cow's progress only to find her surrounded by a mixed flock of vultures and caracaras and her dead calf. I hate to kill anything, but at that moment, I would have shot the lot if I'd owned a shotgun. They also make it difficult for the young calves, who spend a lot of time napping, to get any rest. They walk up to a sleeping calf and peck at it. Unless they get the eyes, the calf is relatively safe from actual danger (Other than what problems stress and lack of sleep bring.) as long as it pops right up. This scares the birds so that, at least for the moment, they fly up into the trees to watch.
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Oct 9, 2011 3:29 PM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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I understand your frustration. It sounds horrible. I love cows. It hurts to hear of such. Crying
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Oct 9, 2011 4:45 PM CST
Name: josephine
Arlington, Texas (Zone 8a)
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Alligators live here at the Fort Worth Nature center in the Trinity river, so yes they are this far up north. Smiling
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Oct 9, 2011 5:09 PM CST
Name: Stephanie Gonzales
Texas (Zone 8a)
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Why'd you have to go and say that Josephine Hilarious! I was more comfortable not knowing that for certain Hilarious!
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Oct 9, 2011 5:10 PM CST
Name: Stephanie Gonzales
Texas (Zone 8a)
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I have heard 'stories' of them being caught out at Benbrook lake also Big Grin
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Oct 9, 2011 8:05 PM CST
Name: Anna
North Texas (Zone 8a)
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Oh yuck! I am sorry about you losing your calf. Maybe they need goggles.
Wow! I didn't know alligators were so close. Well, I had no plans to stick my feet in the Trinity any time soon!
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