Lilies forum: Anyone recognize this OT?

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Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 5:43 PM CST
Trying to figure out who this is. Any ideas anyone?
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 9, 2011 5:52 PM CST

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Are you sure it is OT and not Oriental?
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 5:57 PM CST
It is 6 1/2 feet tall. ............. No, not sure whether it is an OT, just thought it was because of its height.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 6:04 PM CST
Thanks, Pard!
It does look like an Oriental, do they grow that tall?
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 9, 2011 6:26 PM CST

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Probably some do with a combination of genetics, culture and location (stretching for light). I think you will probably need to recall some of the places you might have sourced this lily from then we can take it from there. I do have old catalogs from B&D and Lily Garden going back 10+ years.

My first thought was buggy's Red Bell but turns out it is short at 2-3 ft. Stigma also the wrong color. I always include the color of the stigma when doing comparisons (providing it isn't covered with pollen!).
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Moby
Oct 9, 2011 6:41 PM CST
I'm eagerly watching and waiting for the next installment in this mystery......
Where are we going, and why am I in this hand-basket?
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 9, 2011 6:47 PM CST

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Ok, the real answer to this mystery lies in the exact number of those dark spots/papillae. Get back to me after you have counted them Whistling Hilarious! .
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 6:52 PM CST
I thought it might be one of Buggys., but just not sure. Went on her old site and looked, but did not see anything.... also could be Faraway Flowers.
I will go check my records.....

Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 6:57 PM CST
Pard, we cross posted.
HA! HA! That was funny! Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 9, 2011 7:00 PM CST

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Waiting for the count... then I can check my spreadsheet of name vs. # of spots....
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Oct 9, 2011 7:05 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 9, 2011 7:09 PM CST

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Ah come on, it works every time. Spots are definitely definitive. Quite frankly, offhand of course, nothing scientific here, just my best guess....... how about... Star Gazer! Yeah, I think thats it Big Grin
Name: Michael Norberry
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mnorberry
Oct 9, 2011 9:08 PM CST
Leslie Woodriff's Star Gazer


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Name: Celeste
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pixie62560
Oct 10, 2011 1:23 PM CST
'Sumatra' or 'Rio Negro’ ?
http://www.bdlilies.com/l7003.html
http://www.thelilygarden.com/pages_lilies/oriental_1.html
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Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
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sandnsea2
Oct 10, 2011 1:31 PM CST
Thanks, Celeste!
Rio Negro looks very similar. Smiling
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM CST

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They both have a narrow white edge. Sumatra is closer in orientation: b. Rio Negro is a-b, more upfacing. If you purchased Corvara sometime in the past, it is now Rio Negro.

Rio Negro vs. Sumatra could come down to how dark the nectaries are.
Name: Celeste
Northernmost and largest state (Zone 5a)
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pixie62560
Oct 10, 2011 4:35 PM CST
This was my Sumatra in 2009
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Name: Celeste
Northernmost and largest state (Zone 5a)
The Vacation Land!
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pixie62560
Oct 10, 2011 4:44 PM CST
Whoops! Forgot the picture. Sticking tongue out

2009
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This is w/Casa Blanca in 2011

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