I see them both listed as reverse amoena flower types for Bearded Iris and was wondering why they aren't considered a reverse neglecta? I understand the falls appear 'whitish', but in the AIS directory they have been listed as having a blue tone to them. I'm so confused????????

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Crowned Heads.

I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about it. Just enjoy them.

Richard. You have a point, but I have no idea why the namers named them that way. Some that are named amoena don't have pure white standards either. My guess is that the term neglecta is meant for those that are more of a bi tone, and less white in the standards, but I'm just guessing here.

Hmmm... never heard of 'reverse neglecta'...

Some hybridizers use their own names for descriptions too.I've seen some under classifications that are self proclaimed classifications.

I know he's busy with digs and transplants, but maybe email Keith to see what he says. He just may email a nice educational yet simplified response.

Or you could pose the question on his Facebook page. I am not sure if Keith Keppel coined the name though.

Richard

Hi Richard!

! I think most of the descriptive terms...neglecta, amoena, etc.....were "borrowed" from species names of iris that displayed those characteristics . In the years since "neglecta" was used as a descriptive term for flowers with that particular color pattern, hybridizing has really stretched the limits on ALL the color patterns. Also, the "white" standards thing is really a misnomer, in that most, if not all, "white" iris really aren't "white"....they are very,very light blue, or lavender....it's hard to see, unless you observe the bud as it starts to open, but, if the flower is in a shady situation, that also makes it more apparent.

Forgive me if I seemed abrupt in any way. I was half asleep when I replied and smiling because I thought I'm not the only one who doesn't get a few things yet stays up all night looking at pictures and reading about plants.

I forgot the welcome.

Richard!

Thanks for all the kind replies. I've enjoyed the amazing photo gallery on this site (second only to the AIS site and easier to navigate) and agree Betsy; I'm up all hours of the night in amazement of the diversity and beauty of the TB Iris.

Hi Richard, and again, just curious, do you live around the San Francisco Bay area?
Last year some of us visited Superstition Iris garden (fabulous and I thought I died and went to heaven) and this year we went to visit Napa Iris garden. Napa was also an amazing sight to see as you know. I'm not sure if or where we will go next year but you and your wife would be welcome to join us.

I think the reverse amoena is closest to the description.

Richard!
I'm also in the redwoods and am near Santa Cruz. We're having our big sale this Saturday in Aptos, if you're in shooting distance. We'll be digging tomorrow at Joe Ghio's, and already dug on Tuesday at another member's house, so there should be a lot of good stuff.. I've got several boxes in my car that I'm taking to Joe's tomorrow. The sale is always a lot of fun.

If you get a chance to go to Napa or Superstition, you should jump on the chance. I heard Nola's looked really good this year.

You may have a line of cars following you around tomorrow Sherry.

Richard, Mid America, Schreiners, Kepple and Sisters Iris are all very close together, but plan on spending a few days up there. They are about a four hour drive from Medford Oregon. Also there are a lot of other speciality nurseries up there too.