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Aug 13, 2017 10:25 PM CST
Name: Yardenman
Maryland (Zone 7a)
Weedwhacker said:Cheryl, you might not have noticed yet, but a LOT of things start going downhill after 42 (or thereabouts) Rolling on the floor laughing


I'm 67. Tell me about it, LOL! Mom, at 85, told me "growing old isn't for sissies".

My joints hurt, bending down is hard, getting up is hard. I use knee cushions when weeding. And I probably have 20 years or so to go... I bet it doesn't get better.
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Aug 14, 2017 5:45 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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You can take that to the bank, Yardenman, it doesn't get any better.
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The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 14, 2017 6:12 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
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65 today going on 39 Whistling Whistling so officially old - the government said so when I got my Medicare card Glare
In my brain I'm not old but the aches and pains tell me otherwise D'Oh!
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Aug 14, 2017 7:20 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
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Happy Birthday, Ginny - I hope you have a wonderful day!

When my father-in-law turned 90 he said "I guess now I'm old." nodding
(his sister, my husband's aunt, just celebrated her 101st birthday Smiling )
“Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." ~ Albert Schweitzer
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Aug 14, 2017 7:26 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
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Thank You! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing hope I can still garden if I make it that long Thumbs up
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Aug 14, 2017 7:37 AM CST
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Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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Age has its benefits
GRANDPARENTS to the rescue!

A sound night's sleep grows more elusive as people get older. But what some call insomnia may actually be an age-old survival mechanism, researchers report.

A study of modern hunter-gatherers in Tanzania finds that, for people who live in groups, differences in sleep patterns commonly associated with age help ensure that at least one person is awake at all times.

The research suggests that mismatched sleep schedules and restless nights may be an evolutionary leftover from a time many, many years ago, when a lion lurking in the shadows might try to eat you at 2 a.m.

"The idea that there's a benefit to living with grandparents has been around for a while, but this study extends that idea to vigilance during nighttime sleep," said study co-author David Samson, who was a postdoctoral fellow at Duke University at the time of the study.

The Hadza people of northern Tanzania live by hunting and gathering their food, following the rhythms of day and night just as humans did for hundreds of thousands of years before people started growing crops and herding livestock.

The Hadza live and sleep in groups of 20 to 30 people. During the day, men and women go their separate ways to forage for tubers, berries, honey and meat in the savanna woodlands near Tanzania's Lake Eyasi and surrounding areas. Then each night they reunite in the same place, where young and old alike sleep outside next to their hearth, or together in huts made of woven grass and branches.

"They are as modern as you and me. But they do tell an important part of the human evolutionary story because they live a lifestyle that is the most similar to our hunting and gathering past," said co-author Alyssa Crittenden, associate professor of anthropology at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

"They sleep on the ground, and have no synthetic lighting or controlled climate -- traits that characterized the ancestral sleeping environment for early humans," Crittenden said.

As part of the study, 33 healthy men and women aged 20 to 60 agreed to wear a small watch-like device on their wrists for 20 days, that recorded their nighttime movements from one minute to the next.

Hadza sleep patterns were rarely in sync, the researchers found. On average, the participants went to bed shortly after 10 p.m. and woke up around 7 a.m. But some tended to retire as early as 8:00 p.m. and wake up by 6 a.m., while others stayed up past 11 p.m. and snoozed until after 8 a.m.

In between, they roused from slumber several times during the night, tossing and turning or getting up to smoke, tend to a crying baby, or relieve themselves before nodding off again.

As a result, moments when everyone was out cold at once were rare. Out of more than 220 total hours of observation, the researchers were surprised to find only 18 minutes when all adults were sound asleep simultaneously. On average, more than a third of the group was alert, or dozing very lightly, at any given time.

"And that's just out of the healthy adults; it doesn't include children, or people who were injured or sick," said Samson, now an assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Toronto, Mississauga.

Yet the participants didn't complain of sleep problems, Samson said.

The findings may help explain why Hadza generally don't post sentinels to keep watch throughout the night -- they don't need to, the researchers say. Their natural variation in sleep patterns, coupled with light or restless sleep in older adults, is enough to ensure that at least one person is on guard at all times.

"If you're in a lighter stage of sleep you'd be more attuned to any kind of threat in the environment," said co-author Charlie Nunn, professor of evolutionary anthropology at Duke.

Previous studies have found similar patterns in birds, mice and other animals, but this is the first time the phenomenon has been tested in humans, Samson said.

The researchers found that the misaligned sleep schedules were a byproduct of changing sleep patterns common with age.

Older participants in their 50s and 60s generally went to bed earlier, and woke up earlier than those in their 20s and 30s.

They call their theory the "poorly sleeping grandparent hypothesis." The basic idea is that, for much of human history, living and sleeping in mixed-age groups of people with different sleep habits helped our ancestors keep a watchful eye and make it through the night.

"Any time you have a mixed-age group population, some go to bed early, some later," Nunn said. "If you're older you're more of a morning lark. If you're younger you're more of a night owl."

The researchers hope the findings will shift our understanding of age-related sleep disorders.

"A lot of older people go to doctors complaining that they wake up early and can't get back to sleep," Nunn said. "But maybe there's nothing wrong with them. Maybe some of the medical issues we have today could be explained not as disorders, but as a relic of an evolutionary past in which they were beneficial," said Nunn, who also directs Triangle Center for Evolutionary Medicine, or TriCEM.
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 14, 2017 8:51 AM CST
Name: Mac
Still here (Zone 6a)
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I don't have sleep problems. If I'm tired, I sleep. If I'm not tired, I'm awake. I don't have a regular sleep schedule. Sometimes I'm sound asleep at 8pm, other times I don't fall asleep until 3 or 4am.
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Aug 14, 2017 9:23 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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Aug 14, 2017 9:48 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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Happy Birthday, Ginny.

I have regular sleep patterns and like Mac, I never have problems going to sleep. I tell my wife that's because I have a clear conscience! Whistling When I was in dentistry, getting to the office promptly at 7:30 AM every morning and working till 5:00 every day, I generally went to bed at 10:00 PM and got up at 6:30 AM. When I retired, I began to go to bed around 9:00 PM and now get up between 5:45 and 6:15 AM. I often wake up at 5:15-5:30 AM, and could get up then, but I don't want to disturb my wife. So I just cat-nap until a bit later.
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Aug 14, 2017 9:51 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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10:30 to 6:30 on weekdays and who knows on the weekends! During tax time my brain doesn't stop when I go to bed so I take Tylenol PM, but other than that, pretty regular on the sleep.
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Aug 14, 2017 9:54 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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I guess it is perhaps odd, but I simply cannot sleep past around 6:30 AM. The only time in the last few decades that has changed was when I had back surgery a year and a half ago, and because of pain meds, I might sleep till 8:00 AM. Another odd thing is that I never take naps. Never have.
drdawg (Dr. Kenneth Ramsey)

The reason it's so hard to lose weight when you get up in age is because your body and your fat have become good friends.
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Aug 14, 2017 10:20 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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DH sleeps in the recliner all evening watching TV then gets up and goes to bed and still sleeps! He calls them his "Pre-sleeps" Whistling Hilarious! If I nap I can't get to sleep at night. But my DH will attest to the fact that I am NOT a morning person Blinking Blinking
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Aug 14, 2017 11:01 AM CST
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Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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Well...I FOR ONE am happy to say..NOT one of my family was eaten by a Lion last night -- thanks to me.

I go to sleep 12:301:30 and up a 6 and that is plenty
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 14, 2017 11:33 AM CST
Name: Mac
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Have worked every shift in the book over my various careers, I guess I just adapted. I worked 11pm to 7am during the week and over the weekend was wide awake during the day and slept at night. Took a 2 or 3 hour nap Sunday night before going back to work at 11pm. When we were in the truck we slept when we weren't behind the wheel, whether that was night or day.
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Aug 14, 2017 11:48 AM CST
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Name: Rosie
HILLSBOROUGH, NC (Zone 7b)
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I worked 11-7 at the hospital.. the floors were nice and quiet...shhhhhhh
The ER- not so much!

Then I worked the 3-11.. the WORST... everybody ( docs) wanted everything STAT before 6pm so they coukd go back to family or the office.

Then I worked 6:-3:15 and the hospital is nice as it awakens... it gets real busy late morning and after as the ORs empty.

Then I got the cushy job...8:30-5 ish ...

Now, I have lots of time to nap --but I don't and lots of time to sleep in..but I don't.. I don't sleep for more than a few hours at night and am awake the rest of the time..the earliest time I dare go to bed is 12:30.. Hubby is a 10-7 kinda guy. Asleep when the head hits the pillow. Awakens to an alarm CLEARLY, he does not care if the lions come thru the window
Don't squat with yer spurs on!

People try to turn back their "odometers." Not me. I want people to know 'why' I look this way. I've traveled a long way and some of the roads weren't paved
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Aug 14, 2017 11:49 AM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
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Aug 14, 2017 12:03 PM CST
Name: Gene Staver
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Summer of '66 I worked 3-11pm. Loved it. I could go shopping during the day. Hang out at the beach for a while. Meet my friends at a bar after work. Gene
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Aug 14, 2017 12:03 PM CST
Name: Ginny G
Central Iowa (Zone 5a)
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I JUST discovered my age group! I am a Seenager (Senior teenager). I have everything that I wanted as a teenager, only 50-60 years later.
I don't have to go to school or work.
I get an allowance every month.
I have my own pad.
I don't have a curfew.
I have a driver's license and my own car.
The people I hang around with aren’t scared of anything, they have been blessed to live this long, why be scared?
And I don't have acne.
Life is Good! Also, you will feel much more intelligent after reading this, if you are a Seenager.
Brains of older people are slow because they know so much.
People do not decline mentally with age; it just takes them longer to recall facts because they have more information in their brains.
Scientists believe this also makes you hard of hearing as it puts pressure on your inner ear.
Also, older people often go to another room to get something and when they get there, they stand there wondering what they came for. It is NOT a memory problem; it is nature's way of making older people do more exercise.
SO THERE!! Whistling Whistling Whistling
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Aug 14, 2017 12:07 PM CST
Name: Mac
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Ginny, I'm glad to see you finally made it here. Join the crowd Hilarious! .

When I'm asleep, Mrs checks me to see if I'm still warm and breathing.
Slava Ukraini!

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Aug 14, 2017 12:07 PM CST
Name: katie
Mulege, Mexico (Baja CAliforni (Zone 11a)
That works for me. kb

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