Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Sempervivum 'Nico'

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 27, 2016 8:37 PM CST

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It looks like it is time to look at another sempervivum to verify we have the correct one in our database.
It is S. 'Nico'.

This is believed to be the correct plant. The photo is from Fernwood's photo files.

And this photo by goldfinch4


Here is a photo I took today of what I have as 'Nico'. I don't think it is correct.
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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Sep 28, 2016 12:58 PM CST
That looks exactly like mine. Here's my pic from the "pink" thread for comparison. I gotta say... it's not too shabby looking.

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Yet another imposter? Or perhaps this is what 'Nico' does in September?

What say you, Kevin? I suppose your specimen is lime-green with strong, fiery red tips.
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Sep 28, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Seems like we had this discussion before because I have already down graded my 'Nico' to Noid? Darned if I can find it the discussion. Think it's lost in the chat thread.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 28, 2016 4:41 PM CST

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Julia I looked for it also, but could not find a thread devoted to 'Nico'. So I started this one.

@JungleShadows
Kevin can you take a new photo of your 'Nico' so we can see what it looks like this time of year?
Name: Julia
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springcolor
Sep 28, 2016 5:06 PM CST
Well I'm glad you remember as well, think I'm crazy sometimes. I did get a new one from SMG looks pink now and didn't do summer to will. Kind of crispy.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 28, 2016 5:09 PM CST

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The SMG photo looks to be correct.
http://www.smgsucculents.com/sempervivum%20nico
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
JungleShadows
Sep 29, 2016 7:27 AM CST
Tim is coming over today so he can compare his to mine!

Kevin
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Sep 29, 2016 9:44 AM CST
JungleShadows said:Tim is coming over today so he can compare his to mine!
Kevin


Yes, I'll be launching an official investigation by acquiring expert (unpaid) testimony from a local Sempervivum authority in the Salem area. Any of you on this forum may also be subpoenaed for testimony. Please remain at least 100 feet away from your Sempervivums until this investigation is completed. Angry
Name: Steve Claggett
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madcratebuilder
Sep 29, 2016 11:00 AM CST
To be a fly on the wall.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Sep 29, 2016 5:48 PM CST

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Rolling my eyes.

Is it okay to go out to my semp beds yet Tim?
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Sep 29, 2016 6:45 PM CST
valleylynn said:
Is it okay to go out to my semp beds yet Tim?


Well... let's take a look see.

Here's a horrible picture of Kevin's 'Nico' in its native habitat.

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And here are two rosettes from Kevin's plant placed next to mine. Kevin's are the two at the bottom. Kevin's have stronger red tips and no (or weaker) watermarks. Suspicious... but inconclusive as far as I can tell. Innocent until proven guilty?

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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Sep 29, 2016 8:10 PM CST

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Is Kevin's 'Nico' in full sun? No, I can see they are getting some shade.
I am thinking that mine is not correct. Sad
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gg5
Sep 29, 2016 11:30 PM CST
Tim's Kevin's look more purplish red rather than brownish red...to me, not that this is too significant, but glad you took a couple to grow next to yours to see in the spring if they look the same Thumbs up
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Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Sep 30, 2016 11:18 AM CST
gg5 said:... glad you took a couple to grow next to yours to see in the spring if they look the same


Was I supposed to do that? *Blush* I hope I didn't throw them away. D'Oh! Gotta go check now.

Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Oct 2, 2016 11:27 AM CST
OK, here's Kevin's 'Nico' planted next to mine (and Lynn's I think). There's a similar offset planted on the other side. Who here actually believes I'll remember any of this come April?

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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Oct 2, 2016 3:18 PM CST

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Whistling
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Oct 5, 2016 10:51 AM CST
Looking at the suspected impersonator today, it now seems obvious that the two offsets from Kevin are different from my 'Nico'. But what seems obvious today ain't necessarily so. I will give it some time.

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Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Oct 5, 2016 11:05 AM CST
The creeping clump on the left is Kevin's and yours is the big round clump?...they do look similar but clump on left has slightly narrower leaves from what I could discern... Shrug!
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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tcstoehr
Oct 5, 2016 11:11 AM CST
No no no... the two lonely individual offsets are Kevin's. One on the north side and one to the south of the main clump. You have to enlarge the picture to see them. The creeper on the left is the eternally boring 'Amanda'.
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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webesemps
Oct 5, 2016 11:39 AM CST
Oops, my laptop and eyes are failing me...and don't hesitate to tell us how you really feel about 'Amanda'... Whistling

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