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Nov 1, 2011 10:40 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
In case anyone is wondering what I'm up to this week, it's working on the new server for ATP.

It arrived yesterday and I am busy getting it ready. I hope to have it in production and running the site within a couple weeks.

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Nov 1, 2011 10:58 AM CST
Name: Carol
Canton GA (Zone 7b)
Charter ATP Member Sedums I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Sempervivums Cat Lover Hummingbirder
Birds Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: Georgia Region: Ohio Purslane Container Gardener
Thumbs up I tip my hat to you.
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Nov 1, 2011 11:25 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
I like what's showing on that middle screen ... other than that it all looks like a bunch of technical stuff to me. Big Grin
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Nov 1, 2011 1:17 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Very nice!

It's like seeing behind the curtain, where the Wizard of Oz works his magic mojo.
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Nov 1, 2011 1:56 PM CST
Name: Chris
Ripon, Wisconsin
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Seller of Garden Stuff I sent a postcard to Randy!
Sempervivums Sedums Region: Wisconsin Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer
Rolling on the floor laughing Good one Rick! Personally, it scares me just to look at it. Our company just did a major upgrade to a new server and we have had two days of disaster, with more to come!!!
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Nov 1, 2011 2:20 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
>> Personally, it scares me just to look at it. Our company just did a major upgrade to a new server and we have had two days of disaster

Sad to say, I think that is typical. "Major upgrade, new and improved systems" ... everyone might as well stay home for several days while we try to get anything working again.

However - note how Dave got this whole site up and running with hardly ANY glitches - and those so minor that few people even SAW them. And I think those were mostly related to browser idiosyncracies. It amzes me that anyone can write code that works for multiple, competing browsers!

The command-line text scrolling past actually scares me less than "modern tools" that hide all complexity behind a facade that "does it all for you".

Or they "do it all TO you" and you have no recourse when anything goes astray.

Things at the command line level tend to be relatively simple and "knowable", whereas power tools tend to have us at their mercy.

I don't WORK with PCs or their networks and applications. Thank goodness I only work with embedded microcontrollers in environments much simpler than the PC - OS - application - Internet - browser - network snake pit..

To me, that stuff is black magic dominated by vendors who want to entrap you into their toolchain and then own your soul (or, at least, your entire development budget) for eternity.

I "have to" use PC-based development tools, and have learned to fear the difficulties caused by my tools more than any difficulty in the engineering itself. Complexity is always harder!


Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability
- Edsger W.Dijkstra

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
-Albert Einstein

For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
- H L Mencken

There are two ways of constructing a software design.
One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies.
And the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies."
- C. A. R. Hoare
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Nov 1, 2011 3:17 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
Plant and/or Seed Trader Region: Ohio Region: United States of America Butterflies Hummingbirder Celebrating Gardening: 2015
That's great Dave.

Karen
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Nov 1, 2011 6:32 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Buffalo NY
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I sent a postcard to Randy! Sedums Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Art
Cat Lover Region: New York
Well, Dave...it's all geek to me.
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Nov 1, 2011 6:36 PM CST
Name: Marylyn
Houston, TX (Zone 9a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I sent a postcard to Randy! Region: Texas Daylilies Lilies
Cat Lover Garden Ideas: Level 1
GREAT quotes, Rick!! Thumbs up
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Nov 1, 2011 9:39 PM CST
Name: Susan
Zone 10a (Zone 10a)

Birds Butterflies Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Florida
Hibiscus Hummingbirder Tropicals
Thumbs up Dave thanks for the tour of ATP Headquarters I tip my hat to you.
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Nov 2, 2011 9:16 AM CST
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
And in the end...a happy beginning!
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
For our friend, Shoe. Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Enjoys or suffers cold winters Birds Permaculture Container Gardener
And you now run the server at home? Am I remembering the days when you had to drive umpteen miles to some big building that housed your server(s), Dave? And now it just sits on a table in your office? Have things changed that much in a few years or was I thinking of old Lost In Space movies....

Shoe (congrats on modern day gizmos)
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Nov 2, 2011 9:21 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I'm putting the server together here in my home office, but when it's all installed and ready to go, I will drive it to the big building in Dallas. Smiling
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Nov 2, 2011 9:28 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Morning Glories Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants Butterflies Garden Photography
Thanks for the ATP Headquarters tour, very interesting. Thumbs up
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Nov 2, 2011 9:52 AM CST
Name: Horseshoe Griffin
Efland, NC (Zone 7a)
And in the end...a happy beginning!
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle I sent a postcard to Randy! I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
For our friend, Shoe. Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Enjoys or suffers cold winters Birds Permaculture Container Gardener
Ohhh, okay, thanks, Dave. Still sounds exciting to me!

Happy Day!
Shoe
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Nov 2, 2011 10:14 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Thumbs up
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Nov 2, 2011 3:00 PM CST
Name: Ginger
Fountain, Florida (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Plays in the sandbox Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: Gulf Coast Tip Photographer The WITWIT Badge
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Native Plants and Wildflowers Birds Plumerias Hummingbirder Dog Lover
Oh my...when I think of "server" I picture something that is bigger then my house Hilarious! but one must understand that some days I can't even turn this beast off the right way *Blush* Whistling Congrates Dave on your "new baby" Rolling my eyes.
Each cloud has a silver lineing if only you look for it.
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Nov 2, 2011 3:11 PM CST

Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Forum moderator
Region: Florida Cat Lover Garden Sages Cactus and Succulents Tropicals Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle
Did something you 'urp' here about an hour ago? It kept telling me the site was unavailable for about 5 minutes. I had to have a drink to recover Hilarious!
Seriously - it looks most impressive!!
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Nov 2, 2011 3:31 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Yes, the site was very overloaded.

I'm really looking forward to getting our new server installed!
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Nov 4, 2011 3:09 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Wow, that is impressive Dave. I don't understand the whole server thing. Confused
But sure glad you do. Thumbs up
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Nov 4, 2011 8:51 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I installed the new server in Dallas yesterday. I've been putting the finishing touches on it and will move ATP over to it soon - early this week.

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