I was down in the garden and was thinking about starting to make notations on such things as scape height and branching (still working on the correct way to do the terminal end, for some reason I get confused on that). But, my question that popped up in my mind was, when do you measure scape height? I know the plants are early in the season and some of them ( 'Siloam Double Classic') for example have very short scapes, of course the ones with blooms already are taller than the ones with just buds, so when do I measure them. Bud builders like 'Crimson Pirate' seem to keep getting taller as the season rolls on. So I am thinking that the scape should be measured after the last bloom on it fades. Is that correct? I need help!