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Jan 19, 2012 2:17 PM CST
central Illinois
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Cabella's also carry a line of anti-bug clothing.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Jan 21, 2012 7:58 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Enjoys or suffers cold winters
I don't know that store. Glad that it has started to become available.
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Jan 22, 2012 3:52 PM CST
Name: Veronica
zone 5b
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Art Butterflies Irises Region: Indiana
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I want to be like Thelma when I grow up. Out there weeding and working in my garden. My parents both made it way into 90 so there is hope for me...Gardening keeps our bodies strong.
My winter indoor pursuits are pretty much the same as all of yours.
My attitude determines my altitude
A truly wise person uses few words; a person of understanding is even- tempered. Proverbs 17:27
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Jan 22, 2012 5:24 PM CST
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Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
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Hilarious! Hilarious!

Thelma is amazing to talk to. You feel she is ageless.
She has so much enthusiasm.

Smiling
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 23, 2012 6:11 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
The very best way to recycle seed, bulb and plant catalogs is to leave them in dentists' and doctors' waiting rooms.

Pictures of flowers are much more calming than any of the other magazines. And if the seed catalogs you leave there are last year's, they are STILL the newest magazines in the rack.
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Jan 23, 2012 7:32 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
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That would be a great tip of the day, Rick! Hurray!

They certainly are my favorite reading material.
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks, Janice. I added it to my list for the next time I submit tips to trish (I tend to do them in batches.)

My problem is that most tips I submit are much too long. I should probably extract one "bullet point" from each tip, and resubmit them with the bullet point as the "tip", and the full text of the tip as a post that I would attach to a thread as soon as the tip was used.

Here's my too-wordy list. Almost everything here has been said somewhere else before: almost EVERYTHING has already been said SOMEwhere!


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1. Add instructions to a banner header or Sticky on the "Tips" page, like this:

"To submit tips, send Trish just one Tree-mail with the Subject "Tops". Don't send multiple Tree-mails, just reply to the same Tree-Mail to send more tips."

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When putting out bait for slugs, keep the bait dry by putting a plastic tub or lid over it. Cut out slots to make it easier for slugs to reach the bait. Now you don't have to replace it after each rain.

Cut the bottoms off soda bottles to use as "beer saucers" for attracting and drowning slugs.

Use the rest of the bottle with the cap on as a night-time heat-retaining "cloche" for outdoor seedlings.

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If you find it awkward to bottom-water small pots in trays, cover the bottom of the tray with cotton flannel or rayon batting. This capillary watering mat will distribute water evenly to all the pots. If you use propagation trays or "six-pack" inserts, make sure their bottoms rest on the mats - you may have to trim the edges off the propagation tray.

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To get more warmth from a soil-heating pad, put a sheet of drywall under it (also known as plasterboard or gypsum board). This insulation sends all the heat up to the tray and will keep it warmer. Home Depot usually has 2'x2' squares of drywall for $5-6.

To get even more warmth, cover the trays with a dome or with plastic film tucked under at the edges. Remove the dome or film as soon as any seeds germinate, to reduce damping-off.

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Seed savers can separate seeds from chaff by using screens or seives such as kitchen strainers (usually 18 wires per inch or 30 wires per inch). Spice jars have larger holes for larger seeds.

Window screening has 24 wires per inch, so only small seeds pass through it. Use an embroidery hoop to hold the screening.

Hardware cloth (wire cloth) can be bought in many different mesh sizes. Big seeds can be screened with mesh 10, 12 or 14. Very fine seeds will pass through 30 mesh.
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/...

Make several nesting seed sieves from "PVC DWV Sewer & Drain Adapters". Home Depot stocks them in 3" and 4" diameters for $3-6. Cut a circle of hardware cloth to fit tightly.

For flimsy screens like window screening or 30 mesh hardware cloth, first insert a circle of 1/4" mesh or 10-mesh to support the flimsy screen.

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For long-term seed storage in humid climates, dry them very well first, and then seal them tightly in glass or plastic tubs or jars. Ideally, stored seeds should contain 3-5 percent moisture in a Relative Humidity around 20% . Seeds will lose vigor and viability if stored too wet or too dry.

Buy silica gel desiccant from a craft store flower-drying isle. Put 1-2 tablespoons of silica gel into a paper coin envelope and staple it several times or tape it. Keep the desiccant in the jar and don't open the jar more often than necessary. Silica gel has almost no toxicity, but still, avoid breathing much of the dust.

Replace the desiccant 1-2 times per year if you open the jar once or twice per month. It can be regenerated in an oven at 450 degrees F, but remove it from the paper first because the paper will char.

Relative Humidity indicating cards can be bought from ULINE or Drierite.
https://secure.drierite.com/ca... (small numbers of cards, 20 or 40 cents each)
http://www.uline.com/BL_1002/H... (125 per can)

Seeds may be stored in plastic Ziplock bags within the jar because humidity will migrate slowly right through the plastic, and also through the "zipper".


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To collect seeds from pods that may split or "explode", bag the pods or seed heads in organza bags with tie-strings.
Wal-Mart and craft stores have these in "Wedding Supplies" isles, but these are the best prices I've seen:
http://www.yourorganzabag.com/...

Put an organza bag over flower buds to protect them from insect pollination, if you plan to hand-pollinate them once they open.

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Suggestions for preventing damping off include:
- water seedlings with chamomile tea or 0.1% hydrogen peroxide
- sprinkle the surface of the mix with cinnamon powder before germination
- use sterile mix, fresh each year and stored clean in closed bags
- once seedlings have emerged, avoid high humidity in the air. Keep air moving with a small fan.
- let the surface of the mix dry out between waterings as follows:
- - - - water less often but thoroughly when you do water
- - - - bottom-water
- - - - sprinkle grit or crushed stone or very coarse sand over the top of the mix
- - - - don't use mix with too much peat or fine particles because they hold a lot of water
- - - - replace some of the peat in a mix with coarser fibers like pine bark or coir

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9. When soaking seeds prior to germination, or when watering seedlings, use 0.1% Hydrogen Peroxide. This cleans the seed surface and discourages mold, fungus and damping off.

Drug Stores sell 3% Hydrogen Peroxide, so dilute that 32:1:

1 milliliter Hydrogen Peroxide + 1 ounce of water
or
1.5 teaspoons of Hydrogen Peroxide + 1 cup of water
or
2 tablespoons (1 ounce) + 1 quart of water

You can spray plants sick with fungus with 0.2% Hydrogen Peroxide (double-strength).

If you only have a bottle of strong 35% Hydrogen Peroxide, first dilute it 11:1 to make some 3%:
1 ounce of 35% Hydrogen Peroxide + 10 ounces of water.

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To loosen and improve aeration and drainage of commercial potting or seed-starting mix, mix with Perlite, chicken grit, screened crushed rock or screened pine bark mulch or crushed orchid bark. Grit and crushed rock should be around 1/8 inch.

Pine bark's large dimension should be 1/8 inch to 1/4" or 3/8". Discard most of what will not pass through ½" hardware cloth - those chunks are too big for starting seeds or small pots. Discard most of what passes through ¼" hardware cloth: it's too fine to improve drainage. Reduce the amount of bark dust by starting with medium mulch, not fine mulch.

Don't use pine bark that was stored wet in a plastic bag if it smells bad - anaerobic fermentation products are acidic and bad for root hairs. If you must use "smelly bark", flush it with water and let it air out first.


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Here are some places to ask for free 5-gallon plastic tubs:

car washes
burger joints (pickle tubs)
school cafeterias
restaurants (especially Asian)
bakeries & doughnut shops
delis
supermarket bakeries
supermarket delis
painters & drywall contractors - wash well! (Some use plastic-lined cardboard tubs.)
cat people's kitty litter tubs (maybe less UV-resistant)

It never hurts to bring vegetables, cut flowers or potted plants with you to offer in return.

Home Depot also sells "Homer Buckets" and "Leaktite" buckets, maybe 10 for $30.

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12. The very best way to recycle seed, bulb and plant catalogs is to leave them in dentists' and doctors' waiting rooms.

Pictures of flowers are much more calming than any of the other magazines. And if the seed catalogs you leave there are last year's, they are STILL the newest magazines in the rack.
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Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
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Alot of good information there, Rick!


People can get the best gardening education on this site from folks like you!

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There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 24, 2012 7:42 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
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Me, I'm busy with a) foster animals (two more going this week, yay!) and b) as the new president of the board of a non-profit art society that is becoming even less than non.

But hey, we got art!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jan 24, 2012 8:04 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
Sounds very busy and exciting, Sheryl! Smiling
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 25, 2012 2:29 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks very much, Janice.

I'm kind of a mjental pack-rat. I read a lot, and anything shiny or different attracts me so that I bring it home and squirrel it away. I test out what I can, but save it all. The ones above include my favorites, like silica gel, pine bark potting mix, and cotton-flannel-under-pots-in-a-tray.

Almost everything above was an idea I found somewhere else, and combined with something else, or modified it, or just copied it.
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Jan 25, 2012 5:37 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
You are most welcome, Rick! Smiling

By the way, your icon is totally amazing!
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 25, 2012 8:00 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Thanks again. I feel as if I should have gottent hem to sign a release form before using the photo online - they were little show-offs, posing there until I was done clicking away.

It was spooky - I questioned my eyes at first, then my mind. But they were really there, as the photo proves (no Photoshop!)
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Jan 25, 2012 8:07 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
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There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Jan 25, 2012 8:37 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
I've always loved Ric's avatar too. Thumbs up
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM CST
Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
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Rick - Thumbs up
SHOW ME YOUR CRITTERS! I have a critter page over at Cubits. http://cubits.org/crittergarde...
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Jan 28, 2012 11:48 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Wyoming (Zone 3b)
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Has anyone tried growing 4 oclocks inside over the winter in pots? Just sowed some seeds in a pot with one of my pels that I over winter inside, and wondered if I was wasting my time?
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Jan 29, 2012 3:59 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
Hi Sandi, and Welcome!

No, I have never tried sowing the 4 o'clocks, but maybe if you post over in the seed forum, someone can help better.
Wish I had more to share, but I do mostly outdoor direct sowing. Smiling

Here is a link to the Seed growing forum:

The thread "How early do you start seeds?" in Seeds forum

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There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
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Jan 29, 2012 4:21 PM CST
Name: Karen
Valencia, Pa (Zone 6a)
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cut Flowers Winter Sowing Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Echinacea
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I've never grown them inside, either. When I grew them initially it was by wintersowing.

But they reseed like bad weeds here so I imagine they'd grow anywhere. My volunteers one year
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Jan 29, 2012 4:24 PM CST
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Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana - Zone 5b, and F (Zone 9b)
I'm always on my way out the door..
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Forum moderator Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Master Level Dog Lover Cottage Gardener
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Late January, early February is the time my son and I sit down together and make up paper planting pockets. Oh, and of course some paper bag hand puppets - they're a bit more entertaining for my helper. Big Grin


Sandi,

I don't set up lights anymore, and my house is a bit light-deprived for flowering plants, so I'm no help either. Sorry.
The only flowering plant that I have inside is a plectranthus - it requires very little light to bloom.
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