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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Dec 29, 2011 6:03 PM CST

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I noticed 2 entries for Lilium 'Starburst' with different plants shown. Given the folks who submitted images I'm guessing both are correct. Could someone explain why the 2nd to be "registered" doesn't have to be renamed? http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=Lilium+%27Starbur...
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Dec 29, 2011 6:08 PM CST

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See my answer back where you first posted the question... Smiling
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PollyK
Dec 29, 2011 6:18 PM CST
Here's another Starburst

http://www.thompson-morgan.com/flowers/flower-bulbs-and-tube...

http://garden-photos-com.photoshelter.com/image/I0000C_hm6i5...

http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-412819/stock-photo-starburst...

Of course, now, that first one is a TREE lily, and I'm sure that makes it different.

I didn't see Pards answer on the questions, so I will go look too.
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eclayne
Dec 29, 2011 6:19 PM CST

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pardalinum said:Starburst, hybridized by Lisa Hunt is not registered. There area number of lilies in commerce that are not registered. Any one can access the Online Lily Register (OLR) or the newest supplements on the RHS site to check if their lily is registered. I have noticed that sometimes when duplicate names (for different lilies) appear in the register it is noted that the name is not acceptable due to it previously being used. The lily with an unacceptable name may still have a description which is nice (for the moderator trying to figure it all out!!).

Some of Lisa's lilies are being evaluated by Richard Hyde in the UK and if selected may reappear in the future, under new names.


Thought I'd share it here too. Green Grin!
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eclayne
Dec 29, 2011 6:20 PM CST

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And a cross posting we will go.
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PollyK
Dec 29, 2011 6:24 PM CST
OK, gotcha, one of Buggycrazy's precious productions. Do you think we could note that in the entry for the orange one, Pard? Not registered as yet?
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PollyK
Dec 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST
I also see, as I'm looking at Hydes, that they have taken the Pearl name off Jennifer et al. So, now we're going to be seeing lilies we have as Pearl Jennifer, just listed as Jennifer.
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Dec 29, 2011 7:01 PM CST

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I'll add the comment for Starburst. I think I have done that on most of Lisa's lilies but surely I have missed some!
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gwhizz
Dec 29, 2011 8:04 PM CST
Why is it, the red/black Starburst, looks like Olina, which is almost identical to Pup Art?
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pardalinum
Dec 29, 2011 8:36 PM CST

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Ummmm.... that is like asking why does the Asiatic lily 'Jacqueline' look exactly like the Asiatic lily 'Linda'. Unfortunately, neither of those are registered but broadly sold in the Dutch trade. Thumbs down Thumbs down Angry
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pardalinum
Dec 29, 2011 8:44 PM CST

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I would add that neither Olina nor Pup Art are registered, as far as I can tell. I'm sure there are many more lilies registered that I don't have access to their registration.

The second supplement to the 2007 register/checklist is current only through August 2009.
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Dec 29, 2011 8:49 PM CST
So all my Starburst seedlings are Pup Art or Olina Thumbs down
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bluegrassmom
Dec 31, 2011 9:06 AM CST
Does this site do group buys? I would love to add some new true lilies this Spring.

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Moby
Dec 31, 2011 9:23 AM CST
Either way Anthony, they're still your little babies to name as you wish. Thumbs up
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Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Dec 31, 2011 3:49 PM CST
Starpuppolinaburrrrrstart! Confused
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Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Dec 31, 2011 3:57 PM CST

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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

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PollyK
Dec 31, 2011 8:05 PM CST
Hilarious! Oh, Anthony!
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Dec 31, 2011 8:07 PM CST

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How about Supercalifragilstarpuppolinaburrrrrstart Green Grin! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Jan 1, 2012 2:27 AM CST

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Ok, forget about Starburst the oriental lily. Its name now is Playtime. One fewer Starbursts running around is a good thing...
Name: Anthony Gloriosoides[ sure!]
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gwhizz
Jan 1, 2012 5:18 AM CST
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