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Apr 30, 2023 8:24 AM CST
Name: Pyewacket
Texas (Zone 7b)
kqcrna said: Yes it seems to be gone. Bummer. That was the best seed ID I had ever seen.

Karen


It's not QUITE gone.

https://web.archive.org/web/20...

It's in the wayback machine. The pages are date dependent, but its there.
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Jul 28, 2023 12:50 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Michigan (Zone 6a)
Community gardens rock!
Cactus and Succulents Garden Photography Cottage Gardener Cut Flowers Dahlias Fruit Growers
Region: Michigan Native Plants and Wildflowers Winter Sowing
I'm delighted to find this thread!

From my seed swap group here in NGA I learned about this thread of fabulous seed saving resources. I'm on the board for a local community gardening assn. and will be teaching a basic Seed Saving 101 class this September. This thread's resources will help me provide some great illustrations as well as follow-up resources to our community!

I'm working on a Google doc handout and will post it here when it is ready to share. I'll also write a blog post too and share resources. Thanks for posting such helpful and authoritative tools here.

From Dr. N.C. Deno: "To Plant a Seed is a Noble Deed"
and "Propagation is Conservation"

Adding a seed saving photo collage for interest including my "before and after" photos of using a "seed organizing" system described on YouTube using envelopes and shoeboxes and a tote. It works well for me. In October, everything goes into a mouse proof tote until I start winter sowing perennials.

~ Deb

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Fan of Winter Sowing, dahlias, heirloom tomatoes, community gardens, natives & Douglas Tallamy's Homegrown National Park
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Jul 28, 2023 1:34 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Delaware USA (Zone 7a)
Adeniums Region: United States of America Plant and/or Seed Trader Salvias Region: Delaware Morning Glories
Container Gardener Composter Garden Photography Brugmansias Annuals Vermiculture
I personally think that germinating a seed is the most exciting part of growing a morning glory vine, especially if the seed is over a decade old. I get many plants because of this behavior but I can't help it.

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Mar 15, 2024 7:46 AM CST
Name: Karen
Maryland (Zone 7b)
Charter ATP Member
Earlier posts for links to Norm Deno's books on germination seem not to be working at present, so I found some live ones and updated my earlier, now defunct post, here:

https://garden.org/thread/view...

good luck everyone - maybe the 'mindful' kind of luck? Thumbs up
'Tis the gift to be simple, 'tis the gift to be free ... Till by turning, turning we come round right." Shaker Hymn, Joseph Brackett
Dogs and Critical Thinking must be leashed. Oella MD
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Mar 15, 2024 10:42 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Sierra foothills, Northern CA (Zone 8a)
Irises Region: Ukraine Garden Procrastinator Bee Lover Butterflies Plant and/or Seed Trader
Region: California Cat Lover Deer Bulbs Foliage Fan Annuals
Karen ~ Thank you for that. Deno's reference charts are extensive and very useful. Thumbs up
"Luck favors the prepared mind." - Thomas Jefferson
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Mar 16, 2024 1:08 PM CST
Name: Maggie
Sierra Foothills, Calaveras Co (Zone 8b)
Region: California Seed Starter Enjoys or suffers hot summers Vegetable Grower Winter Sowing Cat Lover
Did you know that technically all the seed companies that we buy from are considered seed labelers? Globally, the farmers, who produce seed are very different than the companies that package and sell it to you. Seed from different "seed labelers" that we consider seed companies may have all been grown and harvested by the same farmer. There is actually a supply chain where you have:

Farmers of Seed Production

Harvesters - sometimes done by the production farmer, sometimes done by a harvesting company.

Conditioners - cleans, scarifies, tests for germination and tests for weed seed/other matter. Most states have their Ag people inspect these companies that are located within their region. This is the quality control step.

Labeler - This company may have Test Gardens but does not GROW seed that is for sale. They are required to have their name and address on the seed packet (as well as other info provided by the Conditioner).

Distributor (stores if not buying directly from the Labeler).

People like Johnny's also have the facility to develop hybrids - but they don't grow them out. I do wonder that we so often hear of folks having differences in quality of seed from the Labeler (Baker Creek, Pinetree, Burpee, Parks, Johnny's...) but could only guess that perhaps some warehouses are not kept de-humidified enough. Of course, when direct buying shipping speed does matter as well.

A presentation I'd done for our Master Gardeners goes over it for the truly curious - also covers laws applicable to many AG states but with a focus on California. At the very end, it pops over to a site where you can look up which countries grow what types of seed as production farming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Remember, it is dangerous to the environment and ILLEGAL in MANY states (CA is one) to mail plants/bulbs/cuttings in. Let’s all practice Do No Harm while we walk this earth and find other ways to connect to one another through gardening.

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