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Jan 29, 2018 5:24 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I think all of us here love garden dirt. I know I do. And don't get me started on bad interface issues with electronic devices. When I had an empty garden, I think I had years with rose lists that approached fifty seven.

Tisha, I have grown Ascot and Felicite Parmentier, and I'm betting you will be very happy with them. I'm still learning how to water, train and prune my FP to get the best out of it. I learned that Ascot is not completely immune to fungal disease; but it is quite vigorous and can recover from it well I do spray it when the garden begins to show signs of disease. My own Erinnerung an Brod is growing very well and has had no disease problems. In its third year it stretched out to something like six or eight feet in width and a little less in height, a big open shrub; and it bore three flowers in a delicious purplish shade. So it is a rose requiring some patience. I'm still betting that patience will be richly rewarded.

BTW, I think you will find that your Nikon D7500 will take pretty good pictures most of the time if you set that little round knurled knop at the top of the camera to Auto. When you take photos of flowers you might sometimes get better results if you were to set it to the little flower icon. Mostly that (and turning it on and off, removing the lens cap - a big problem for me with my non-SLR camera, recharging the batteries) might be all you will ever need to know unless you were to take up serious macro, sports, or nighttime photography.

Good luck with your rose orders! And please do send photos.

Ascot blooming with a David Austin rose, possibly Jubilee Celebration.
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Jan 29, 2018 7:00 PM CST
(Zone 5b)
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@Steve812
So many blossoms, so little time.
TX for the fungus heads up.
I plant susceptible roses up wind of the others to help reduce problems as much as possible, blk spt really likes William Shakespeare.

Tisha
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Jan 31, 2018 10:38 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
Which William Shakespeare do you have, Tisha, the original or the new and improved 'disease resistant' William Shakespeare 2000?
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
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Jan 31, 2018 8:23 PM CST
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@Steve812
Ha ha, don't even want to know what the 'non' improved version was like.
All of my W.S. are the 2000.
The most predominate winds are from the SW.
The plants that get blackspot are therefore planted on the NE area of my micro climate. The hypothesis is the diagonal direction will help carry the spores away from the garden area.
At least that's what I tell myself.

Off topic;
Thanks for the camera tip.
It has a Nikon VR 18-300 mm lense.
It has me totally intimidated !

Tisha

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Feb 1, 2018 10:09 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I keep being surprised by how diseases manifest themselves with roses. I have a Winchester Cathedral that was planted near Golden Celebration and a few other disease magnets. It was a hopeless mess. I had to choose between throwing it out and moving it far away from all other roses. In the new location it is often moments away from dying from drought, but it has persisted for almost two years. Only Pink Pet had done so well in this general area. And it has had not a spot of fungal disease there ...

My only advice on the camera is to play with it. Before long, I think you will find yourself taking photos that, far into the future, will help you relive the pleasure of your gardening successes in recent and distant past.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
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Feb 1, 2018 11:17 AM CST
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@Steve812,
Thanks for reminding me of W.C.
I tried my best to kill it last year. I'll spare you the shameful details.
Will look at it this afternoon.
About 16 months ago I found Constance Spry sticking out the top of a 15' long lilac hedge! Whistling

Tisha
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Feb 1, 2018 1:59 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
I keep forgetting about C.S. I grew it in New Jersey and I will say that there is something unique about that rose. The "hyrid vigor" does propel it to unusual heights, but it also can give it the energy to produce more bloom than a garden full of newer roses. And they are remarkably pretty, IMO.
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Feb 1, 2018 2:07 PM CST
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Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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Constance Spry is remarkably pretty, but I've always avoided buying it because it's a once-bloomer. I just don't have the space to grow a lot of roses that won't rebloom. I do grow the yellow Banksias, several Gallica roses, Alchymist, and a few others, but most of them are in shady corners where other roses wouldn't grow well.
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Feb 1, 2018 2:50 PM CST
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Constance Spry
Late spring bloomer here -app. June 1st, and
on the north side of the ? ft. H x 15 ft. L. lilac hedge.
Hidden and forgotten for several years.
Soon to be peeking over the top, pretty as can be.

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Feb 2, 2018 9:13 AM CST
Name: Carol H. Sandt
Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Zone 6b)
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From David Austin Roses:

Imogen (Taking a risk here; new pale yellow rose for 2018; looks pretty and claims disease resistance and fragrance)
No NGA photo
https://www.davidaustinroses.c...

Queen of Sweden (chosen because of its disease-free beauty and fragrance in the Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden at the New York Botanical Garden in June 2017)

https://www.davidaustinroses.c...

Tranquillity (chosen because of its expected disease resistance, beauty and fragrance)

https://www.davidaustinroses.c...

Fairy Tale series roses from Palatine (Very positive comments about disease resistance from Peter Kukielski in "Roses without chemicals")

Caramella (chosen because of Steve812's positive comments)


Pomponella (chosen because of its gorgeous and disease-free foliage and blooms at the Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden in June 2017)


Kosmos (chosen for fragrance and white blooms to contrast with Pomponella)


Cinderella (chosen for pink blooms to contrast with Pomponella)


Golden (couldn't resist another disease-resistant yellow rose)
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Feb 2, 2018 10:14 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
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Great choices. I want them all! Lovey dubby

Kosmos is a great rose here. I hope it will grow as well for you. Crossing Fingers!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 2, 2018 7:47 PM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Roses Hummingbirder Farmer Daylilies
Birds Cat Lover Region: California Bulbs Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
grrrrrrrrrrr...I knew I shouldn't look at this thread because it would tempt me to buy more roses that I have zero room for. Last weekend I remembered I had a gift certificate for a very good local nursery, so I used it for a Violet's Pride rose and a Cl. Don Juan.

Is there a 12 step program for rose addiction ? LOL
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Feb 2, 2018 7:51 PM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
To add to your drooling...Antique Rose Emporium sent an email saying there will be a 2 day sale starting on Feb 6th. Whistling
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Feb 2, 2018 8:03 PM CST
Name: Porkpal
Richmond, TX (Zone 9a)
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With Amanda's help, it might turn into a 14 step program, or so...
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Feb 3, 2018 2:52 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Does this 14 step program work for iris addiction too? There is some serious binge ordering going on in the Iris Forum right about now. Big Grin Whistling
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Feb 3, 2018 9:23 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
Carol, lovely choices for your climate. Good luck with them! I cannot wait to see your own photos here.

Mike, my order has sent me into panic gardening mode. I have to decide which marginal plants to dig up, forcing me to do things like throw out a five year old Sexy Rexy that, on its own roots, has never bloomed. Or to consider discarding a healthy Centennaire des Lourdes simply because it is too gangly. Or to move an Agatha Christie to a location it never can survive. Or to move a Jubilee Celebration for the third time in as many years. I usually like to wait for roses to die before throwing them out or dooming them to failure; but it's time for extraordinary measures...

Since none of the roses in my last two or three orders from ARE has survived (There is some strange interaction between their stripping the leaves and the climate here which prevents the leaves from actually getting reestablished. Sometimes rabbits play a role, too.) I will pass on this order. I guess I've gotten through step one. But there are how many nurseries? The program may be more than 14 steps for me...
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.
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Feb 3, 2018 10:28 AM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member Roses Hummingbirder Farmer Daylilies
Birds Cat Lover Region: California Bulbs Butterflies Garden Ideas: Level 1
Let's face it: Roses are a "gateway plant"...(as in marijuana leading to other drugs) which I unwittingly got sucked in to.
Us weak-willed gardeners (though well intentioned) don't know the meaning of restraint. I've tried but failed miserably. "Do I really NEED another daylily or iris to make me happy ?"
I wonder if hypnosis would work.........hmmmmmm.........

Steve: Try this method...it's my strategy for dealing with rose related angst:
Give them 3 years to prove themselves or out they go. It works.

............lead us not into temptation...............STOP clicking on links to rose nurseries !!!!!
Repeat this silently several times daily.
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Feb 3, 2018 10:40 AM CST
Name: Amanda
KC metro area, Missouri (Zone 6a)
Bookworm Cat Lover Dog Lover Region: Missouri Native Plants and Wildflowers Roses
Region: United States of America Zinnias Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
I'll find a bunch of links and post them here. Whistling Whistling Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 3, 2018 11:03 AM CST
Name: Lilli
Lundby, Denmark, EU
Irises Roses Bulbs Hellebores Foliage Fan Cottage Gardener
Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Seed Starter Winter Sowing Bee Lover Dog Lover Region: Europe
Hilarious! I doubt that will be necessary? Hilarious!
Of course I talk to myself; sometimes I need expert advice!
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Feb 5, 2018 11:49 AM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ (Zone 7b)
Irises Lilies Roses Region: Southwest Gardening
IrisLilli said: Hilarious! I doubt that will be necessary? Hilarious!



My browser has a Gardening tab and a long & growing list (no pun intended) of places to look for plant material. And then there is the "I bought" list in my e-mail showing order confirmations for all plant materials I've gotten online.

I went for a year acknowledging that my garden is, in fact, completely full. But it was bad for my health. I did not get outside enough. So now I try to indulge myself. Moderately. For my health. Whistling . Not that anyone here might know what I mean.
When you dance with nature, try not to step on her toes.

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