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Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Feb 9, 2012 3:42 PM CST
I looked for a forum for Wildlife Gardening but could not find one. So I wondered were to put this. I find that gardening to attract the birds definately attracts other wildlife. Certainly we must all have lots of squirrels because they like the bird feed also. Chipmunks too.

Me, I have found that since I have planted all these fruiting shrubs, added waterfeatures and heavily mulched, I have more racoons than ever before. They come here every night. And it must be many different racoons at different times of the night as I have seen them here at times from dusk and any hour of the night. Can hear them fighting and making those trilling noises they make often in the summer with the windows open. See them wading in the side yard pond nightly many summer nights.

Last night on PBS Nature I saw a really interesting show on TV about Racoons. Mostly about Urban Racoons and the differences between them and the forest racoons. Plus apparently there are FAR more racoons in suburbia and urban areas than in forest. Racoons have adapted extemly well to living around people. Not a big surprise to any of us, I am sure. Racoons are smart and keep getting smarter plus they can do just about anything with those clever little hand like paws that they have. The show found that appartantly they have their own social networks which let everyone know the best sources of food. If that is so then they surely all know about my yard, for sure.

A year round multiple source of water here and racoons love water. The heavy mulch means there are grubs and earthworms always to be dig up. I can see signs of digging many summer nights. Berries to eat in the summer and food scraps from the garbage all year round. I have given up trying to put food scaps in the garbage, it is a waste of time. I just throw it out in the side yard. Find it easier than cleaning up spilled garbage cans. Gave up on that years ago, just give it to them directly. Never throw anything elible in the trash, toss out all bones and food scraps for the racoons. No wonder they love it here.
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 9, 2012 3:50 PM CST
Green Grin! Thumbs up I agree
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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM CST
Yes, no wonder!

Karen
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Feb 9, 2012 4:03 PM CST
For instance, I just tossed out some leftover cooked spagetti noodles that I will not eat because I already ate up all the sauce. Racoon food for tonight!

Honestly it is not that I try to attract racoons. It would be fine by me if there weren't any here. But I know that is just impossible. Clever little pests.
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 10, 2012 4:59 AM CST
Yes, Rita, I've learned to co-exist with them here too. Since we back up to woods, there are more of the various critters than there are of me. I know when I'm outnumbered (and out-witted sometimes too). :shrug:
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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Feb 11, 2012 12:05 PM CST

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I saw that same PBS show, Rita...very interesting! There was two raccoon shows I remember. That one showed raccoons in several areas...I think Canada, Japan and Germany mainly. The raccoons in Japan and Germany were introduced (those people really should have asked the Americans that have raccoon problems about them...then they wouldn't have done it...maybe!) and they have really severe problems with them. And another one...I don't remember much about that one...been a while. LOL, on the outnumbered and out-witted, Tee! We can see that with just our cats...never mind the wildlife! I haven't seen much of the raccoons this winter. The drought and predators probably impacted their population. But I'm sure I'll see them a lot more come by when it gets to spring and wildlife baby season is upon us.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Feb 11, 2012 12:21 PM CST

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Foirgot to add...we should ask about getting a separate wildlife gardening forum sometime...really isn't any for wildlife, other than this one for birds, butterflies and hummingbirds! And adding more kinds of wildlife to it isn't really good!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 12:32 PM CST
How about I go ask for that. Anyone want to help with it besides me? Linda? Rita?
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Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Feb 11, 2012 12:43 PM CST

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Sure, count me in! I mean, it's okay to post about wildlife gardening in general for now, but we really need another forum!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 12:54 PM CST
I agree ... this forum is for certain topics and should remain that way. Doesn't hurt to ask. Green Grin!
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Feb 11, 2012 12:58 PM CST
I am for a Gardening for Wildlife Forum. I was surprised that there wasn't one already. Only figgured that out when I was looking for the most appropriate place to post my new thread about the racooons. Linda, I figgure there are few places here in North America were there are not any Racooons. I thought that show was a great one, glad you enjoyed it also.
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
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Newyorkrita
Feb 11, 2012 1:00 PM CST
Sorry, I didn't mean to upset anyone with my racoon topic. I would be fine with it being moved to a garden for wildlife forum if there was one.
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 1:04 PM CST
OK, I put in a request and we'll see what happens. Thumbs up
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Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 1:06 PM CST
Oh Rita, you didn't upset anyone. We agree that we need a gardening for wildlife forum to keep from hijacking this one. We are in total agreement. Thumbs up Green Grin! I just want to give them their thread back before we're in the Sandbox. Hilarious!
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Newyorkrita
Feb 11, 2012 1:10 PM CST
Thumbs up Big Grin
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX (Zone 8a)
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LindaTX8
Feb 11, 2012 2:35 PM CST

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If you post a request for a new forum, put a link to it here, please! I've often thought there should be a general wildlife gardening forum, because there's SO many kinds of wildlife to garden for. Hopefully enough people want that to get one.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Cherish today
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 2:41 PM CST
If the new forum is created we should be able to split this thread and move this discussion to the new thread. Will that work as well, Linda?
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
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Newyorkrita
Feb 11, 2012 2:53 PM CST
The thing is that I was trying to make a paradise to attract the backyard songbirds, butterflies, bees and humming birds. I wasn't trying to attract squirrels as I already had plenty and of course wasn't trying to attract racoons and possums as those already passed thru the yard regurarily. But if you plant your yard nicely and make it part shrubby woodsey and many flower beds plus berries galore and use lots of mulch to attract lots of earthworms then you get lots of animals. Plus I have lots of water as in three ponds, two 35 gallon and one 350 gallon. Plus birdbaths. So lots of racoons as things got more planted here.
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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SongofJoy
Feb 11, 2012 2:57 PM CST
I agree Same here, Rita.
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched -- they must be felt with the heart. ~ Helen Keller
Name: Rita
North Shore, Long Island, NY
Zone 6B
Charter ATP Member Seed Starter Tomato Heads I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Vegetable Grower Lover of wildlife (Raccoon badge)
Birds Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Roses Hummingbirder
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Newyorkrita
Feb 11, 2012 3:15 PM CST
Those racoons really, really like the ponds and try to get the fish that live there. Plus they truely know how great garbage tastes. Keeps them well fed. Whistling Rolling on the floor laughing

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