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Mar 19, 2012 2:02 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Yes, this is what we will standardize on. I will be writing a script to fix all existing entries.
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Mar 19, 2012 2:16 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Perfect! Green Grin! Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 20, 2012 10:03 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Here are all the abbreviations currently in use in the species field of our database (the number to the left is how many plants have that abbreviation):

22,103 var.
13,351 subsp.
3,219 ssp.
935 f.
8 v.
5 spp.
4 b.
2 aff.
2 K.
1 var.canescens
1 ssp.repandum
1 s.
1 p.
1 nvar.
1 nothosubsp.
1 n.
1 h.
1 cf.
1 c.
1 aurea.
1 arach.
1 ST.
1 S.
1 P.

I don't know what some of these are and am going to ignore them for now. The ssp. is the big one that is used a lot. There are also a bunch of miscellaneous ones scattered here and there that have misspellings or no period (like "var" instead of "var.") I have to look for those one by one.

Example: Aconitum alboviolaceum var f. albiflorum

That's the update for now. I'm working this right now and will post the update soon.
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Mar 20, 2012 10:31 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
3,277 have been updated. Most of those were the ssp. abbreviations.
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Mar 20, 2012 10:37 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
Final update: I have changed the code so that when you add a new plant, or edit an existing one, the system will automatically correct any abbreviations that may be non-standard.

So if you try to add a plant with a species of, for example, "foo ssp. bar" then the system will auto-update that to read "foo subsp. bar".

The same with synonyms and editing plant names. So this should resolve that once and for all.

Now, there are a few oddball plants still in the system that weren't found but that I know are there. For one, some of the alliums have "var.foo" where foo is some var. name. My script couldn't catch it because there was no space after the period.
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Mar 20, 2012 1:00 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
My brain gets all twisted up just thinking about how you do that Dave. Blinking
Thank you for all your knowledge and the amazing things you do for us. Thumbs up
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Mar 20, 2012 3:51 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I tip my hat to you.

And thank -YOU- to eclayne for driving this issue. Sure made things easier and simpler for me. Teamwork. Smiling
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Mar 20, 2012 3:57 PM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Go, Evan! Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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Mar 20, 2012 5:11 PM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Composter Plant Identifier
Fantastic Dave. Thanks!

If there are a bunch of misc. items would it be easier to run a script like the duplicates list for us to attend to?

Also could you to "park" a link to the duplicates list in the DB forum sidebar?
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Mar 20, 2012 5:30 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
If I could write a script to produce such a list I would have. I don't see how I can put such a thing together. We'll just have to fix 'em as we run into them.

eclayne said:Also could you to "park" a link to the duplicates list in the DB forum sidebar?


? Confused
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Mar 20, 2012 5:32 PM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
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Okee doke.
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Mar 20, 2012 5:33 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I think you were asking to have the plant dup report linked to from the sidebar in this forum, so that's what I did. Smiling
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Mar 20, 2012 5:41 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Where, I just have a great long add in that space?
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Mar 20, 2012 5:41 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Never mind, I found it. *Blush*
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Mar 20, 2012 5:44 PM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
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Thumbs up Sorry I missed the ? in earlier post.
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Mar 20, 2012 5:45 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
You come up with the most amazing ideas Evan. How do you even think of those things?
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Mar 20, 2012 6:06 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
Okay, but let me remind everyone again that lots of rose cultivars share a name, so don't be surprised by the many roses on the list. Smiling

And the "duplicate" Clematises actually are of different species.
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Mar 20, 2012 6:08 PM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Composter Plant Identifier
Thanks Lynn. There not really ideas, just problems I run up against which I hope ATP'ers and Dave can solve.
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Mar 23, 2012 9:12 PM CST
Plants Admin Emeritus
Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Aroids Irises I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Tropicals Vermiculture
Foliage Fan Bulbs Hummingbirder Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Composter Plant Identifier
Dave, There are a number of Iris showing up with ssp. When I went to change the abbreviation it shows up as subsp. Here are 3 examples, there are others.


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Mar 24, 2012 6:23 AM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
It's automatically changing it from ssp. to subsp. because I programmed it to do that.

But why these exist in the first place confuses me a bit. All the " ssp. " abbreviations should have automatically been converted. I'll look further into this.

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