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Jun 21, 2018 7:57 PM CST
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Baja_Costero said:Mystery Euphorbias here...

A couple of milii volunteers by different dads (I'm guessing)
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Medusas (hybrids I'm guessing), both from seed
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A clumping plant
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These 2 are the same clone
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which is similar to but distinct from this plant (E. x japonica), itself a hybrid of susannae and bupleurifolia. I think one of the parents may be the same. The stems are a different color.
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And finally (speaking of parents) here is bupleurifolia female doing her thing on the patio. These have brown stems.
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Is that a seed pod on the last one?
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Jun 21, 2018 8:07 PM CST
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Indeed. Only the girls do that. Dad is nearby.
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Jun 22, 2018 5:56 AM CST
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Baja, All those plants are from seeds from your plants? Nice growing!

Daisy, your too kind. Always thinking of others. I only hope it is slow growing.

Karen, Mine are over 20 years old. I'm happy they are not over 15" tall. They do love full sun at least for part of the day. That's when they take on that pinkish color. My problem is too much rain during summer. I loose some to rot. I need a sunny sheltered area for them.
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Jun 28, 2018 7:20 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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My plant cuttings arrived today. They are beautiful! Lovey dubby Thank you Stush!
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Jun 28, 2018 10:04 PM CST
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Hi Stush, I also got your package today, Euphorbia buruana! Many, many thanks!

Planting time tomorrow! Yippee!
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Jun 28, 2018 11:23 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Yippee!
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Jun 29, 2018 8:16 AM CST
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That's just what I do when I get a package with plants. Photo it for my records and then a year later to see what progress I get. My pleasure.
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Jun 29, 2018 1:08 PM CST
Name: tarev
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We are in heat wave mode again, into the very high 90F's later so I have placed Euphorbia buruana for now in part sun/shade side of my garden. We are expecting around 104F tomorrow Rolling my eyes. .

Shadow from our house in the mornings, Yucca sheltering it to right and schefflera to the left when sun goes south/south west, the city trees will provide dappled shade in the afternoon in front of it when the west sun hits that side.
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I will wait till mid next week before I let it join the other Euphorbias and other succulents currently basking in more direct hot sun at this time of the day:
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Jun 29, 2018 2:17 PM CST
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What I just found out; A caudex difffers from a fat root by having a large central (one) fat stock while a fat root is a large swelling root with several together. You will see fat roots growing from the caudex adding to the caudex. My first fat rooted E. buruana that I planted last year, the root continues to get fatter and longer buried just under the gravel distorting the pot. Meaning that it needs a re-potting again to expose more root system. Picture coming when I re-pot it. I think this plant is related to the sweet potato. Hilarious!
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Jun 29, 2018 2:23 PM CST
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I just got my new Euphorbia buruana from you potted up. It is a very nice fat root already. I can't wait til it grows and hopefully blooms for me. Thank you again! My biggest adenium has a lot of fat roots growing off it's caudex.
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Jun 29, 2018 2:25 PM CST
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More people should study Latin as children. It would help so much confusion, not just on this forum with plant names and terminology, but in the entire Indo-European world.
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Jun 29, 2018 2:27 PM CST
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I agree, but it seems to be dying out in high schools and colleges. My mom majored in Latin in college. She was able to teach me so much when I was in school. Latin is quite useful for more than plant ID's.
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Jun 29, 2018 2:31 PM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
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Yep. Anyone who eats plants, grows plants, lives in houses made from plants, wears plants, looks at plants, smokes plants, drinks from plants, or whatever would benefit. So would anyone who works in healthcare, knows about healthcare, or uses healthcare. Its reach is vast and wide. Even in societies which do not have sizable populations speaking Indo European languages (like China and Japan) a basic knowledge of Latin is still extremely useful because of its worldwide influence.
Keep going!
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Jun 29, 2018 6:00 PM CST
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I took Latin and it was incredibly helpful for learning Spanish and later for learning Russian, which shares a great deal of grammar. The Latin names for plants tend to be uninformative when they're based on the names of people (Euphorbia flanaganii) as they so often are. But the ones that capture a characteristic are more meaningful. Like Euphorbia ingens (=huge) or mammillaris or polygona or even bupleurifolia. A lot of the Latin names work great in Spanish, like the old Aloe ramosissima (super branchy) or Mammillaria plumosa (feathery) for example, which translate perfectly to Spanish with no need for a dictionary. Smiling
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Jun 29, 2018 9:10 PM CST
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I took Latin in college also. It was mandatory for science majors but Baja is right, of limited value if a plant is named after a person. But a great help if its descriptive. My major was biology; Latin came in very handy in biology.
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Jun 30, 2018 9:23 AM CST
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I'm sorry, I can't master English. My Latin is horrible. Like my friend told me, please leave Latin alone after what you did to the English language. I am lucky to have masted math. I excelled in electronics. Stupid in one area makes me smart in another.
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Jul 2, 2018 8:17 AM CST
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Wow Stush2019, that was so nicely documented! Hurray! I don't do much with those types of plants here in Florida, too much rain at times. But very nice job.
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Jul 4, 2018 8:45 AM CST
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Rain is killing me right now. I don't have a covered place to put my Euphorbias because my Sanseveria and Jades are taking all the space up. Lost a few to rot but now it's so stinking hot out. 90's with lots of moisture. Grumbling But I guess I have it better than most of the US right now. Flooding and landslides all around us but we are good.
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Jul 4, 2018 9:04 AM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
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Rot should be preventable.

There are several things you can do:

One, if you can't move the plants you can re-pot them in 100% inorganic substrate. I do this and many people in the Deep South and tropical areas also do this. I use 100% pumice for plants that get this treatment. It prevents rot even in hot, monsoon-like conditions like we're both currently having.

Two, you can build a (bigger) rain shelter under which to put these particular plants. I have also done this. Rain blows sideways so depending on how big it is, some plants will still get wet, but overall it does work to prevent over-watering and rot.

Three, you can bring selected plants indoors and add supplemental lighting if necessary. This will also prevent over-watering and rot.

But your plants really should not be lost to rotting, even with the high humidity, heat, and rainfall we're currently experiencing.
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Jul 4, 2018 2:28 PM CST
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Jack, I done all that you suggested but I am overwhelmed with too many plants. Mother nature is helping me to weed out the weakest ones. My only hope is to some day pay down my bills so I can afford a proper green house. That will at least take care of most of the months of spring-summer-fall. I seen one at Harbor Freight for about $600. A 8 ft. x 10 ft. with vents. A very good deal. Right after I #1 paint the insides of house, #2 installed new hard wood floors, #3 New windows in side and front of house (did the other sides). And I'm sure the wife will come up with 8 more reasons why not to buy it.
She suggested that I get rid of most of them and make my life easier but she can't understand that it makes me happier. Like a lot of people here, I got way too many. At least I don't have cats all around my house yet! Rolling on the floor laughing
As for soil, I use poultry grit (insoluble crushed granite) which is cheap and pumice is rare and expensive here.

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