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Aug 4, 2018 9:42 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Karen, my Euphorbias here gets frequent watering. Our temps are already too warm, so dry and being summer, light duration is already longer, so it is so ready to drink a lot. Like if overnights are consistently above 55F and daytime high just soaring into 90F and higher, got to give it a lot to drink. That sure prods it to show signs of growth, either new arms, new leaves or new babies.
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Aug 4, 2018 9:56 AM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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The odd thing, Tarev, is that I have given it plenty of water, but nothing has happened. Stush, I sure hope it decides to start growing. It's such a tiny thing, but seems firm and the color is still good. It's just been marking time.
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Aug 4, 2018 12:56 PM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
WV (Zone 6b)
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Anybody US members want this 6" variegated Euphorbia mammillaris for $7 postage? Or trade for a non-variegated cutting?

I just don't like the variegation.

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Aug 4, 2018 1:01 PM CST
Name: Karen
New Mexico (Zone 8a)
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If it's not already spoken for, I'd love it, Jai.
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Aug 4, 2018 1:04 PM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
WV (Zone 6b)
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Done! I will mail it out Monday. I already have your address and you have mine plus my PayPal address. Smiling
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Aug 4, 2018 1:07 PM CST
Name: Karen
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Thanks!
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Aug 4, 2018 1:09 PM CST
Name: Jai or Jack
WV (Zone 6b)
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You're welcome. If I'm honest I did not even realize it was variegated at first because the texture of the plant makes the whole thing look like a solid color unless you really stare at it.
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Aug 4, 2018 1:10 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Hi Karen, aww that is one cranky pots Euphorbia eh? I guess on the good side it is not going mushy, so maybe it is just bidding its sweet time.

Euphorbia ritchiei - doing better leaf growth this summer. It really taught me to step up watering as our temps got hotter so it can grow and sustain its leaves.

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Aug 4, 2018 4:55 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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My newest Euphorbia! I believe it is E. lactea White Ghost Crest. I will leave it alone for 4 - 5 days to get acclimated to its new home. Then I need to break the outer pot as it has no drainage hole and the plastic nursery pot is glued to the ceramic outer pot.
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Aug 5, 2018 1:25 AM CST
Name: Bob
The Kau Desert, Hawaii (Zone 12a)
If your Euphorbia lactea crest has any green in it.
It will grow better without being grafted.
This one is about 15 years old from a cutting.
For some reason my varigated plant decided to revert to a green one.

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Aug 5, 2018 10:28 AM CST
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Frenchy, I never had luck with grafted lactea crest to stock E. Neriifolia (Indian Spurge Tree). Mine are still on their grafted stock of same E. lactea. Bob is right about them once established they do better on their own.
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Aug 5, 2018 11:24 AM CST
Name: Stefan
SE europe(balkans) (Zone 6b)
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...speaking of which, anybody managed to propagate a nerifolia branch out of grafting stock?
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Aug 5, 2018 2:27 PM CST
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Sure did. Got quite big on me as well. Had to find it a new home. Too big for me. And their fast growers.

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Aug 5, 2018 4:30 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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Could I remove the stock at some point and re-root the plant on its own? Would it be worth it or just leave it as is? Any special care for it other than normal Euphorbia care? I actually got the plant out of its ceramic pot without damaging anyone. Now the plastic pot will drain properly. Smiling
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Aug 5, 2018 4:56 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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I have de-throned all my E. lactea cristata plants. If they have any green, they can survive, even with a reputation for being difficult on their own roots. I think the biggest problem when they don't have the bottom part of their twosome is that you tend to overwater as they are under-photosynthesizing. Here are my least green E. Lactea:
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Aug 5, 2018 6:53 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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Thank you Bob, Stush and Daisy. Do I just cut all the stock part away from the crest and then let the crested part dry out some before starting to root it?
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Aug 5, 2018 9:03 PM CST
Name: Daisy I
Reno, Nv (Zone 6b)
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Step 1 - be very very sure this is what you want to do. There is no turning back.

Step 2 - Cut or don't cut depending upon outcome of Step 1. Smiling

I would cut it below the green 'V' about where those two old branch/leaf scars are. My reasoning is that the cristata is rooted into the green Euphorbia and by cutting low, I am preserving some of those roots. That's just my theory, I don't really know.

Then let it dry and root like any other Euphorbia cutting.
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Aug 5, 2018 10:26 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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Thanks, Daisy. I like step 2. Smiling I'll give it a couple of days then I'll put my surgeon gloves on and do the deed.
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Aug 6, 2018 8:40 AM CST
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Daisy, Well that answers my question about looking at your plants. Still got some of that of the graft stock.
Frenchy, Your soil looks too peaty. Only problem is that it holds too much moisture. That's not a bad thing if you can water properly but I over water so I use a 50-50 mix with poultry grit. It adds air around the roots and increases drainage. Some of my euphorbia is in full grit due to their ease of rotting.
One thing nice of removing the bottom stock is more roots along the contact with the ground as lone as you keep the moisture off the plant. A top dressing of gravel or grit is helpful for this.

I been putting off de-grafting mine. I know sooner or later I will have to. They are growing so nice I hate to cut it up. I have removed stock and rooted the cuts with no problems and then gave them away due to space.
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Aug 6, 2018 12:37 PM CST
Name: Frenchy
Falls Church, VA (Zone 7b)
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Thanks for the advice and information Stush. When I remove the bottom stock, I'll put the crested part in a 50/50 mix with pumice. How long do you let the crested part dry out before rooting it? Should I keep the rooting Euphorbia in shade or introduce it to more sun little by little?

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