Just for the heck of it, spurred on by James and Karen, I decided to go back and see how this thread started. Wow, 2012. I only got in on it in 2013. I see that @chefmike92 was involved on the thread very early on. It's too bad that he has gone away. My very first plumeria order (a dozen or so cuttings) came from Mike.

Hi Ken! Yes, it is such a long, long thread eh? My Plumies biography and ordeal in my hands!

@tarev Lots of water under the bridge since those days of ATP for sure.