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vic
Apr 2, 2012 4:07 PM CST
Very nice Dave!

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Apr 2, 2012 4:29 PM CST

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eclayne
Apr 7, 2012 9:03 AM CST

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Re: listed names. As these link to a specific Parent Plant and the sci. name may not be known by the searcher, should both common and sci. names be noted. At least in some instances.

ex. Elephant Ears can be Colocasia, Alocasia, Xanthosoma, Caladium, ... I didn't understand the distinction early on.
Another example, due to unfamiliarity with the common name, might be American Wood Lilies/Trillium. Are there other examples?
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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 7, 2012 9:27 AM CST
I get what you're saying, Evan. The Parent Plants list has the common name of the plant first followed by the botanical name. So I think the common names are showing up in the Custom List area if the plant has one listed. Does that make sense?





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eclayne
Apr 7, 2012 9:30 AM CST

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Yes. What do you think about listing both, at least in some instances?
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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 7, 2012 9:45 AM CST
Good idea, if it's doable.
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dave
Apr 8, 2012 5:42 PM CST

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Some of these parent plants may cover more than just a genus.

Some may cover less than full genus, but rather a single species (like Hibiscus syriacus, for example).

Others cover multiple species within a single genus.

So adding the latin name after the common name isn't practical across the board. Having said that, however, we can make the names be whatever we want them to be on a case by case basis. So if there are certain ones that you want me to read "Common (Genus)" or "Genus: Common" or whatever, we can do that. But it wouldn't apply automatically across the board. But I think that flexibility is actually a good thing.
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SongofJoy
Apr 9, 2012 3:53 AM CST
I agree That's good to know. Does the Custom Plant List have room for both common and botanical names or just one or the other?





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Apr 9, 2012 6:59 AM CST

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You can see in the box on the plant database front page how much room is there. It shouldn't be too long.
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Apr 9, 2012 7:16 AM CST
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SongofJoy
Apr 9, 2012 7:30 AM CST
(Agastache) after Anise Hyssops
(Nerine) after Cape Lily
(Alyogyne) after Australian Mallows
(Lycoris) after Surprise Lilies
(Opuntia) after Prickly Pears
(Hymeocallis) after Spider Lilies


If that isn't too much trouble and if those will fit. I'm not great on the technology end of things so I never know. Shrug! If they don't fit, then those are the botanical names that should appear in the List rather than their common names.

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dave
Apr 9, 2012 7:44 AM CST

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This is done!
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 9, 2012 8:24 AM CST
Great! Thank you. Green Grin!
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dave
Apr 9, 2012 11:10 AM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
Name: Connie
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pardalinum
Apr 9, 2012 11:16 AM CST
I'll bite... How about adding (Lilium) after Lilies. Thanks Green Grin! .
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dave
Apr 9, 2012 11:30 AM CST

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Added!
Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Apr 9, 2012 1:59 PM CST
I missed one:
(Pavonia) after Shell Flower.

I tip my hat to you.
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sandnsea2
Apr 9, 2012 2:16 PM CST
Ok, how about Muscari after Grape Hyacinth? Thanks!
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dave
Apr 9, 2012 3:25 PM CST

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Both added.
Name: Janice
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sandnsea2
Apr 9, 2012 3:26 PM CST
I tip my hat to you.

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