well here is my current progress. so I did some pruning as you might be able to tell,and I ated 2 get the entire plant out of the ground. as you can tell I was unable because it has two gigantic roots going completely South. I got one up, the one on the left, but the other two will be a little bit more difficult than I thought. also I was informed by my mother that they are not climbing roses, she did not like them. she also seem to remember she got them from Jackson Perkins. And she said now, changing the story a bit, that all of the Roses went wild comma and they all turned red. The weed barrier definitely forced the roots to grow outwards. And there is solid gray dirt/clay under barrier. I recovered the entire plant knowing I need more time.