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Aug 19, 2016 5:40 PM CST
Name: Ken
East S.F. Bay Area (Zone 9a)
Region: California
This is just conjecture, but here's what I think happened. The AHS version is the original, and someone, (presumably the hybridizer, but maybe the registrar) decided to wrap the entire parentage in one last set of parenthesis. This "Gift Wrapping" is something I see frequently in catalogs.

AHS:
(((Cerulean Star × Loch Ness Monster) × ((Fairy Tale Pink × Donetha Marie) × Enchanter's Spell))

Removing the end wrappers gives us the NGA version,

((Cerulean Star x Loch Ness Monster) x ((Fairy Tale Pink x Donetha Marie) x Enchanter's Spell)

which is unbalanced. My gut feeling is that there is one remnant, erroneous parenthesis on the left, which, if removed, leaves us with;

(Cerulean Star x Loch Ness Monster) x ((Fairy Tale Pink x Donetha Marie) x Enchanter's Spell)

which would mean that the SC x LNM seedling was the pod parent, and the (FTP x DM) x ES seedling was the pollen parent.

However, since it's a botched parentage to start with, it's "possible" that it's really this;

((Cerulean Star x Loch Ness Monster) x (Fairy Tale Pink x Donetha Marie)) x Enchanter's Spell

where Enchanter's Spell was the finishing pollen. Possible, except for; 1) it requires a lot more manipulation in order to make it so, (Occam's Razor) and 2) Edge of Chaos is a 7" UF, which is an improbable (not impossible) result if a 3" diploid was the direct pollen parent.

Regarding "X vs. x", It seems to me that it only works once. In other words, in order for it to be effectively used as I think it's intended—to indicate the "final" pollen parent, or "final" pairing—that would seem to mean that there's only room for one large X in a parentage "equation". The question is, what happens in subsequent generations? Even though the parentheses may seem to be difficult to sort out, I still believe that if done correctly, they're the best thing going with regard to plants with long, complex lineage.

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