I got impatient and bought older plants to use as root stock and then I will graft them to get the flowers I want and the gnarly caudex's. The ones I just got are over 3yrs old and gnarly and still underground. I lucked out someone had plants he was just growing. I had asked about root stock and he replied. I 6 plants for the price of one. Problem is I have to wait till next spring to start. To late in the season for me. Oh well
