@CindiKS Well after the ordeal in the suitcase, Cindi, your PT has an excuse for being puny
mine doesn't
The russets on MyRoses.de are beautiful!
Neal, Lili, I like obelisks as well. Westerland is growing on one but I am not sure what is holding what up there, and I planted Super Excelsa last year which is slowly making its way up and around. It will of course eventually outgrow the obelisk but that's ok because I want the height before it starts taking over - hopefully - it is in the middle of my slope bed which is really inconvenient to access.