I have tried to not get these post all mixed up unfortunately I'm not doing well with that at all. Thanks so much for your patiences!! I don't think Id made a post for the persian shields alone. Can I delete old post? Oh it be great if I could add post to other posts Id previously made and forgotten about it. .. oh I suck at organization! I was trying to set up a shelf for all my gardening tools and sprays , pots ect and its juat a big pile of grap on top a table with the stand sitting beside it empty. . Honestly if I told tou how much I frustrated myself we could all have a good laugh! I have to laugh about it if not Id cry and I dont feel like doing that. Lol Id perfer to laugh at myself if possible sometimes I dont laugh! Im pretty upset with myself with the persian shields. I feel i should have know better than to not give them proper air. I truly believe that is what happened. They were perfect roots leaves were still beautiful! Then the fish tank everything went down hill from there