Zuzu ...
You've asked a difficult question. With the bankruptcy of J & P and Weeks, the rose industry was kind of turned upside down. A lot of rose growers went out of business or decided to grow other crops. Some stayed in business, but grew fewer roses. There was less demand for roses. As usual, when there is a void, new people started growing roses.
When Kim made his observation, the clone on the market was more orange and it's possible that Cindi's rose came from a grower that is still using that rose for budwood. Your newer roses could be coming from another grower that is using a different stock rose for budwood.
I really don't know.
I just went back and re-read your question ... if I remember our discussion correctly, Kim was telling me the change in the color of the rose in commerce was due to poor selection of budwood that was carried forward over time. It was not due to mislabeling.
As far as Smoky is concerned, I couldn't even begin to answer your question. I think Smoky is a beautiful rose, but if I remember correctly, it is not a very vigorous rose. I've only seen it in person once. It could be the conditions where it was growing that made it seem like it was kind of a wimpy plant, but the blooms were beautiful.
